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Bush Pulls Off Shrewd Stroke (Immigration strategery is a coup de main)
The United Press International ^ | January 8, 2004 | Martin Sieff

Posted on 01/09/2004 8:39:23 PM PST by quidnunc

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To: Siamese Princess
As far as I'm concerned, Bush is a Christian socialist. Bush is a Christian globalist socialist.

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All socialists/Marxists are inherently also globalists. The belief is that redistribution of the world's wealth into world ownership will erase the economic tensions that are the breeding grounds (which is the term Bush used) that creat terrorism and war. As a subset of that logic Mexico is to be given a redistribution of America through immigration.

(Parenthetically, when it is over, the world and the Bush aristocracy will end up owning me and anything I do.)

Collaterally, nations such as the United States are to be eased into economic parity with other nations so as to make eventual world aggregation and redistribution less noticeable in transition. Destructive transfer of jobs and industries is one facet of this.

Bush is a follower of evolved Marxism as it has moved into a religious form. As it was often argued in the '60s leftist movements, the only true Christians are Marxists. As Bush stated, without directly mentioning Marx, America has an obligation to share its wealth with the world.

The mental defectives on this forum and elsewhere have bought into it blindly as being the alternative to the Clintons. In fact, Bush is doing a better job of selling Marx than the abrasive confrontational Hillary.

This is the most dangerous and destructive presidency I have seen in my lifetime going back through Franklin Roosevelt.

261 posted on 01/10/2004 11:31:17 AM PST by RLK
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To: BraveMan
As to no competition for Repub votes....that is a crock.
I see this Bush-Rove move as a pre-emption because the subject is very much a threat to all incumbents and especially incumbents in the White-House. The best theme yet for a 3rd party attack!
262 posted on 01/10/2004 3:42:57 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: Siamese Princess
Keep thinking loving thoughts of President Bush.

Smooth as silk. Easy as pie. Like ringin' a bell.

Enjoy your loserdom.

263 posted on 01/10/2004 7:43:39 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: RLK
This is the most dangerous and destructive presidency I have seen in my lifetime going back through Franklin Roosevelt.

God bless America, even the voices from the sewer are protected.

264 posted on 01/10/2004 8:07:49 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Siamese Princess
Pres. Bush is a fanatical globalist ideologue

I like "globalists," and would not want anyone but that in the White House. Going down the road of anti globalism leads to chaos and a roll back of an efficient global economy that is the last, best hope for mankind. Cheers.

Clearly however, with your views, you should not vote for Bush. It would be grand if Bush won with 55% without getting a single vote from your ilk, not one. THAT will send a message.

265 posted on 01/10/2004 8:12:18 PM PST by Torie
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To: azcap
Do I put my food away forever and just starve? NO - I get a screen door. The foods stays on MY table and MY family eats it. The flies stay outside. America needs a screen door ...

Electrified screen door (bug zapper)

266 posted on 01/10/2004 8:24:09 PM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: RLK
As Bush stated, without directly mentioning Marx, America has an obligation to share its wealth with the world.

Why don't you post a real quote for discussion? Your spin is that Bush wants to share the wealth out of guilt that America has too much. I suspect that it is more rather that America has much to offer to the world in the form of ideas and methods and practices, and that a little help here and there to the extent it makes the planet a more peaceful and prosperous place, is not only moral because we are one species, but also in America's self interest. That's my spin.

Now let's see the quote, and the context. Absent that, I think what you are suggesting is errant.

267 posted on 01/10/2004 8:55:06 PM PST by Torie
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To: Landru
Interesting read, this one.
268 posted on 01/10/2004 10:14:09 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: MJY1288
Comments such as yours really surprise me. While it is probably true that illegal Mexican immigrants do not pose an imminent national security threat, I think it is pretty retarded to reward law-breaking, both on the part of illegal aliens and their employers. Don't you think that rewarding law-breaking for personal gain will only encourage it? Also, don't you think it is ridiculous to give Social Security benefits to people with false Social Security cards?

Also, if the employers of illegal aliens just need the cheap labor, why don't we then just grant legal alien status for non-citizens who can show they do not have a criminal record, and can show proof that they actually have employment? Doesn't that make more sense?

and yes, I understand that at this point, the President does not support the notion of blanket amnesty, and that is good. But from what I have seen of the current proposal, it seems that there could be better solutions, such as what I put above, and I have heard many other people suggest this. Sure, I understand that the vast majority of Americans do not want to pick vegetables in the blazing sun 20 hours a day, or clean toilets or mow lawns for living, but I just think it would be much wiser to just grant legal alien status for those who can show employment and have no criminal record. Automatic citizenship is just being too lenient and is a slap in the face to every other immigrant who busted their butt doing everything legally.

269 posted on 01/10/2004 10:14:46 PM PST by Valentine_W
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To: Texasforever
I didn't say it could be done overnight. But I also don't take the 'there are so many child abuse cases in the world, why bother trying to stop it' stance. If you get what I mean.
And I still won't vote for Bush unless he turns the car in the other direction.
That goes for the ACLU, too. Which I hope self combusts.
270 posted on 01/13/2004 9:48:04 PM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
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To: sfRummygirl
Knock yourself out.
271 posted on 01/13/2004 9:52:53 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Torie
W'04 :^)
272 posted on 01/13/2004 10:02:43 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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