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What good can a handgun do against an Army
Jeffhead.com ^ | 1999 | Mike Vanderboegh

Posted on 01/10/2004 9:53:58 AM PST by Jeff Head

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To: toddst
oops...

gather = gathering.

21 posted on 01/10/2004 10:35:16 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: LibKill
A good list, but let me remind you of the humble .22 LR. Humble, but effective if properly used.

Forgot all about that one, but you are 100% correct.

22 posted on 01/10/2004 10:37:13 AM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Jeff Head
During that discussion, one poster indicated that since handguns were not a military weapon, the local community or state should have every right to vote a law banning them, in essence for public safety.

Uhhh... these are military weapons

The theory and practice of it was this:

First, you approach a German sentry with your little pistol hidden in your coat pocket and, with Academy-award sincerity, ask him for a light for your cigarette (or the time the train leaves for Paris, or if he wants to buy some non-army-issue food or a half- hour with your "sister"). When he smiles and casts a nervous glance down the street to see where his Sergeant is at, you blow his brains out with your first and only shot, then take his rifle and ammunition. Your next few minutes are occupied with "getting out of Dodge," for such critters generally go around in packs. After that (assuming you evade your late benefactor's friends) you keep the rifle and hand your little pistol to a fellow Resistance fighter so they can go get their own rifle.

Or maybe you then use your rifle to get a submachine gun from the Sergeant when he comes running. Perhaps you get very lucky and pickup a light machine gun, two boxes of ammunition and a haversack of hand grenades. With two of the grenades and the expenditure of a half-a-box of ammunition at a hasty roadblock the next night, you and your friends get a truck full of arms and ammunition. (Some of the cargo is sticky with "Boche" blood, but you don't mind terribly.)

Pretty soon you've got the best armed little maquis unit in your part of France, all from that cheap little pistol and the guts to use it. (One wonders if the current political elite's opposition to so-called "Saturday Night Specials" doesn't come from some adopted racial memory of previous failed tyrants. Even cheap little pistols are a threat to oppressive regimes.)

They called the pistol the "Liberator." Not a bad name, all in all.

Uhhh... these are military weapons

So were these:


23 posted on 01/10/2004 10:37:16 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Mulder
I standardized several years ago on .223 and .308 for long rifles and .44mag for hanguns and my lever action bear gun (both shoot the same cartridge)...and .12 gauge for shotguns.

I am considering a 9mm pistol and carbine combination to augment my .44mag.

24 posted on 01/10/2004 10:37:31 AM PST by Jeff Head
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25 posted on 01/10/2004 10:37:58 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: archy; sneakypete
Exactly...get yourself a Mauser.

Very appropriate military use and logical order of assencion.

As sneakypete says...while they're at it, they better ban the non-military ice picks too, because you can use that to get a handgun or a rifle if you have the will.

26 posted on 01/10/2004 10:40:04 AM PST by Jeff Head
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27 posted on 01/10/2004 10:40:22 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: robertpaulsen
See post 23...archy beat you to it. I responded in post 25.
28 posted on 01/10/2004 10:40:55 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: toddst
unless they are as subverted and blind as the BATF anf FBI were at Waco (which unfortunately does show it can happen.)

Do not forget that it was Geeral Clark who approved the use of his tanks at Waco and that is when his star began its meteoric rise.

29 posted on 01/10/2004 10:43:01 AM PST by fella
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To: Joe 6-pack
Heh-heh..Good pic...
Good ol' Roland.

30 posted on 01/10/2004 10:43:30 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: stevio
Thanks...but I have been posting a good bit lately. I guess we just haven;t crossed paths

Do a search by poster using my name and you will see a few threads I have posted and been involved on in the last few weeks .

Like these:

25 Direct Statements for understanding firearms ownership and the 2nd Amendment

The Rising Sea Dragon in Asia

Documenting the Capture of Saddam Hussein

Bill St. Claire reviews Dragon's Fury Volume IV

31 posted on 01/10/2004 10:46:40 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
I standardized several years ago on .223 and .308 for long rifles

What are your thoughts on a good .308 rifle?

I have an AR-15, and am considering getting an AR-10 to keep the same manual of arms. ARMS is supposed to come out with an SIR later this year that free floats the AR-10 barrel, so I'm considering getting that, along with a variable Leopuld scope.

32 posted on 01/10/2004 10:47:04 AM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Jeff Head
I'm accurate -- just not quick on the draw.
33 posted on 01/10/2004 10:47:40 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: RandallFlagg
"Good ol' Roland."

He's an ass-kicker ain't he?

34 posted on 01/10/2004 10:47:55 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: LibKill; Travis McGee
A good list, but let me remind you of the humble .22 LR.

Humble, but effective if properly used.

In particular: at night, and likely, often in use with a sound suppressor. By daytime, the suppressed .22 rifle with a quality optical sight offering somewhat more precise bullet placement may be a slightly better choice. But the real expert will likely be able to make excellent use of either tool.

That said, I really expect the cutdown 12-gauge shotgun and the cutdown .22 semiauto rifle to be among the most common effective weapons used and encountered in the troubles likely to be coming to pass in our common future.


35 posted on 01/10/2004 10:48:31 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Joe Brower
FYI.
36 posted on 01/10/2004 10:49:08 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Also by Mike Vanderboegh:

The Window War

37 posted on 01/10/2004 10:51:52 AM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: Mulder
I have an FN-FAL which I like a lot...but the ARM rifles are very appealing. I believe any of them are good as long as you practice enough to get a real good feel for shooting it accurately.

I also use a Savage .308 with a tactical barrell for hunting.

38 posted on 01/10/2004 10:53:01 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: LibKill; Jeff Head
Exactly......a Small beretta 21A or the older 71/70 series and even the newer S&W 317 snub nose .22's when cached with a brick of ammo and a very expensive and very complex OSS string holster will get all the bigger toys that seditious alphabet agencies traitors carry day to day. That little rimfire will fill one needs if they should ever have such a need at all.

As most know there are folks, active, former and retired that have no need of a firearm at all for such events. So that said I pray such a series of events never occurs in our country.

Stay Safe and aware......:o)

39 posted on 01/10/2004 10:53:32 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: DuncanWaring
That was a great story...Window War II was also good. At one time, both were posted here on FR.
40 posted on 01/10/2004 10:53:51 AM PST by Jeff Head
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