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1 posted on 01/11/2004 2:25:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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I don't know if this Atkins thing is good or bad - some people I know have been on it for a while, and their pounds lost and good health reports (including lower cholesterol tests) sound great. But I seriously question the wisdom of businesses jumping onto a health fad like this.

I can easily see someone a few years down the line turning around and suing a company for their 'low carb' food.

I hope for the sake of business, and for the sake of the health of consumers that this Atkins thing is actually the good thing it appears to be.
2 posted on 01/11/2004 2:34:27 AM PST by kingu (Remember: Politicians and members of the press are going to read what you write today.)
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3 posted on 01/11/2004 2:34:37 AM PST by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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I have been on the carbohydrate addiction diet for years, back when doctors would tell me I was being foolish to think the diet worked, that I was buying into voodoo dieting. Nonsense - the true carbo addict knows how well the diet works - it's absoluting liberating to suddenly be in control of your eating.

Cutting carbs works wonderful IF you have a carbohydrate metabolism problem - which many of us do. But there is no "one size fits all" diet. Some people do best on the traditional diet. (There is a test to take to see which one is better - the first question being do you get hungrier and weaker for the day if you eat breakfast)

A true, severe carbo addict's metabolism is not fooled by diet foods. A sweet taste in the mouth can set off a hyperinsulin reaction as easily as cake can. Diet sodas have the same effect on me as a cookie. So most of these "low carb" solutions are really no solution for me.

Even certain medications can set off the effect. Going into a kitchen and smelling baking cookies can set off stomach twisting cravings for someone like me.

So I am waiting for the other shoe to drop here, that low carb "doesn't work". No one will ever convince us carb addicts of that, but going in and buying low carb ketchup is not a panacea.
5 posted on 01/11/2004 2:43:07 AM PST by I still care
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Wonder if there will be any public apologies for all those "health-faddists" who were laughed at, sued, fined, and even put in prisons for their "outrageous" and "unhealthy" claims that white flour and white sugar were killing people???

Or, those "kooky" notions that people weren't getting enough proteins???

7 posted on 01/11/2004 3:04:08 AM PST by Ff--150 (What is Is)
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My personal theory is that carbohydrates are the magical substance that make things less expensive. I developed this theory while shopping, when I noticed that things without carbohydrates cost far more. For instance, a regular candy bar is 50 cents; the same candy without carbs is $2.50. A loaf of bread is $1; a loaf of low-carb bread is $5. Therefore, the presence of carbohydrates must make things cheaper.

If we could just find a way to fill a Lexus with carbohydrates, it would cost less than a Ford Escort.

9 posted on 01/11/2004 3:19:07 AM PST by HHFi
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11 posted on 01/11/2004 3:26:02 AM PST by expatguy
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14 posted on 01/11/2004 3:58:29 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("When do I get to lift my leg on the liberal?")
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Take the case of two Subway sandwiches. The Atkins-Friendly Chicken Bacon Ranch Wrap has 40 grams fewer carbohydrates than its Sweet Onion Chicken Teriyaki sandwich, but packs an extra 100 calories and 7.5 grams of saturated fat. Those extra calories represent about a pound over the course of a month, Beranbaum said.

Compared to the sandwich, the wrap contains more proteins and/or fats, which the body digest more slowly than it digests carbohydrates.

If the wrap keeps the consumer satiated longer and helps him skip his afternoon candy bar (over 200 calories), then that will more than compensate for the wrap's extra 100 calories. Not only could he avoid gaining that extra pound, he might actually lose two by consuming fewer total calories.

But, who knows if the new wrap is really any good. Subway already had a low-carb option: to buy a salad version of their sandwiches. A plastic box replaces the bread, and you might even get some extra vegetables.

15 posted on 01/11/2004 3:58:37 AM PST by heleny (No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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I wish the gov would crack down on the beer companies. Michelob Ultra claims only 2.6 grams of carbohydrates per bottle, but yet they ALSO say 95 calories.

Now 2.6 grams of carbs equals 10 calories. They also say the beer has 0 grams of fat and 0 grams of protein. So are they conveniently excluding 22 grams of SOME OTHER type of carb like FIBER? or something not very digestible like malitol/xylitol/splenda?

The gov forces food manufacturers to have clear nutrition tags on everything else, beer shouldn't be an exception, especially in THIS case, where the beer is SELECTED because of its nutritional numbers.

RE Sarah Lee bread: 9 grams of carbs per slice is terrible! 18 grams per sandwich (just for the stinkin bread) is definately NOT "low carb"! I use O-so-lo rolls, 3 grams net per roll, and they taste good.

The subway wraps are great, can't wait to try all the other products mentioned here if they REALLY are near-zero carbs

I don't do low carbs to lose weight (although it DOES help). For me, it reverses my cholesterol ratios from very bad, to very good

19 posted on 01/11/2004 4:10:12 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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"Take the case of two Subway sandwiches. The Atkins-Friendly Chicken Bacon Ranch Wrap has 40 grams fewer carbohydrates than its Sweet Onion Chicken Teriyaki sandwich, but packs an extra 100 calories and 7.5 grams of saturated fat. Those extra calories represent about a pound over the course of a month, Beranbaum said."

I guess Beranbaum missed the scientific study that proved that people on a low-carb diet with 300 calories per day MORE than a high-carb diet STILL lost weight.

23 posted on 01/11/2004 4:42:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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Uncle Sam wants you to drop that low-carb green salad with blue cheese and pick up the nice bowl of apple jacks. Uncle Sam thinks you aren't eating enough carbs.
28 posted on 01/11/2004 5:23:05 AM PST by ko_kyi
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First of all the title of this article is wrong, Atkins and other "low carb diets" don't promote No Carbs. We cut carbs especially junk carbs to start the fat burning. I've tried the low fat diets numerous times, only to gain more weight. I finally started the Atkins diet a year ago and shed 58 pounds rather easily.

"Low-carb is just another fad diet," said Dr. Caroline M. Apovian, director of Boston University's Center for Nutrition and Weight Management

This shows how much some doctors know before opening their mouths. Atkins 1st diet revolution book was published in 1973.Some just refuse to admit that they are wrong.
31 posted on 01/11/2004 5:38:04 AM PST by FreedomGuru
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""Low-carb is just another fad diet," said Dr. Caroline M. Apovian, director of Boston University's Center for Nutrition and Weight Management."

Translation: I can't make any money off of it so I'm slamming it.
34 posted on 01/11/2004 5:57:33 AM PST by Beck_isright (After 8 years of Caligula, now we get Nero.)
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The first low carb diet was written by a mortician back in the late 1800s. I remember my mother reading Prevention Magazine around 1950 condemning white flour and other foods. She also replaced our aluminum cookware with stainless on Rodale's advice at the same time.

I have been lo-carbing for almost a year but because my wife prepares a terrific traditional holiday meal and it is one of the few times our family gets together. I indulged with them and I gained six pounds during that time and now that I am back to lo-carb it refuses to come off. I have come to the conclusion I must be eating too many mixed nuts to curb my appetite?
42 posted on 01/11/2004 6:40:29 AM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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Not at least according to nutritionists who simply refuse to budge from their trying old weight loss formula

That's just it...the anti-carb magic has been known for more than a century...but it has to by reinvented because of powerful interests, not the least of whom are the Leftist "Diet for a Small Planet" crowd.

So, in the interests of ticking these types off, I'm looking into "The NO GRAIN Diet"...

The only way to remain thin, according to its author, is to foreswear GRAINS forever!

In other words, the only good grain is grain fed to farm animals!!!

Looks like people are finally voting with their stomachs!

52 posted on 01/11/2004 10:57:30 AM PST by Lael (Bush to Middle Class: Send your kids to DIE in Iraq while I send your LIVELIHOODS to INDIA!)
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54 posted on 01/11/2004 12:05:09 PM PST by VOA
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Subway began selling two Atkins-friendly wraps -- the Turkey and Bacon Melt Wrap, with Monterey cheddar cheese, and the Chicken Bacon Ranch Wrap, with Swiss cheese -- two days before the New Year.

I tried one of the Turky/Bacon wraps a couple of days ago. Tasted pretty good, but an unbelievably bad deal. Small, few fillings, a small sprinkling (like a spoonful) of cheese, gone in about 4 bites. $4.69. Reminds me of most Atkins-branded products - hyperexpensive for what you get, with much better alternatives out there.

I won't be going back for another one. Sorry, Subway; you blew it the first time around.

57 posted on 01/11/2004 12:17:17 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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