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Comment #341 Removed by Moderator
To: Hon
Knock it off or face suspension or banning. Thank you.
To: Jim Cane
AMERICANS FIRST !!!
Vote Tancredo in 2004.
343
posted on
01/14/2004 10:11:59 AM PST
by
WhiteGuy
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To: All
CUBAN INFORMATION ARCHIVES
DOCUMENT 0035
List of Participants Of
THE BAY OF PIGS INVASION
(2,681 names)
[[Edited for brevity. Please see link below for full list.]]
Maceira, Leonardo---- R-537. R-710.
Maceiras Rivero, Francisco J.---- R-537. R-710.
Maceo, Antonio---- R-726. Unique.
Maceo Masque, Antonio---- R-537. R-710.
Machado Concepcion, Jose Rafael (Francisco)---- R-709.
Machado Vidal, Ramon E.---- R-537. R-710.
Machin Machin, Elio---- R-537. R-710.
Machin Molina, Ramon---- R-537. R-710.
Macho Castillo, Tomas---- R-713.
Macia Del Monte, Jose Ignacio---- R-537. R-709. R-710.
(Macias) Macia Vinent (Vinet), Adrian---- R-537. R-710.
(Macias) Macia Vinent (Vinet), Jorge---- R-537. R-710.
(Macias) Macia Vinent (Vinet), Roberto---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Macias Riera (Rivera), Jose Manuel---- R-709.
Mackenzie, Jorge---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal, Jesus---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal Arencibia, Romualdo J.---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal Mendigutia, Rafael M.---- R-537. R-710.
Madruga Otero, (Cristo) Salvador---- R-709.
Maiz Labfador, Orestes G---- R-713. Unique.
Malaret, Aniceto---- R-537. R-710.
Maldonado Pimienta, Orlando V.---- R-537. R-710.
Mancebo Garcia Rios, Jorge S.---- R-713.
Mancebo Garcia Rios, Roberto F.---- R-713.
Mancebo Rodriguez, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Manduley Curbelo, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Manito Morales, Gustavo E. D.---- R-713.
Manos [Nanos] Lazo, Carlos---- R-537. R-710.
Manrique Garcia, Orlando---- R-537. R-710.
Manso Rojas, Andres---- R-537. R-710.
Mantecon Moraquez, Felipe S.---- R-537. R-710.
Mantilla, Noelio E.---- R-537. R-710.
Maqueira Perez, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Mara Barros, Alfredo M.---- R-537. R-710.
Marill/ Marrill Anguera, Eddy---- R-537. R-710.
Marin Dominguez, Juan T.---- R-537. R-710.
Marina Aguirre, Jose D.---- R-537. R-710.
Marino, Manuel---- R-537. R-710.
Marquet Alderete, Jorge---- R-537. R-710.
Marquet Martinez, Fernando---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Calero, Francisco---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Franklin, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Ortega, Abelardo E.---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Regueira, Mario G.---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Sanchez, Eraclio---- R-537. R-710.
Mars, Thoedore---- R-734.
Martin Carrera Correa, Hermo---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Gonzalez, Feliberto R. (Rafael)---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Labrador, Adolfo---- R-537. R-710.
Martin (Marti) Manso, Nestor---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Suarez, Jose Rafael---- R-709.
Martin Suarez, Lucio---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Valdivia, Manuel Severo---- R-709. Unique.
Martinez, Esteban---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez, Felix C.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez, Pedro---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez (A.), A. Emiliano---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Arbona, Manuel D. J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Camejo, Faustino---- R-709.
Martinez Castro, Luis Enrique---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Cruz, Ortelio Fidel---- R-709.
Martinez De La Cruz, Ricardo---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez De La Paz, Reinaldo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Delgado, Armando J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Echenique, (Esteban) Alberto---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Estrada, Joaquin R.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Farinas, Hugo---- R-713. Unique.
Martinez Faura, Jose----- PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Fernandez, Martin---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez (Garcia) Garces, Pedro Celestino---- R-709
Martinez Garriga, Antonio Santiago---- R-709.
Martinez Gonzalez, Lutberto---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Granja, Segundo C.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Guasch, Racso---- R-713. Unique.
Martinez Hernandez, Idelfonso---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Herrera, Epifanio---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Leiro, Julio---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Llano, Eduardo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Llano, Humberto---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Lopez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Malo Rui Ruiz, Mario---- R-709
Martinez (Martines) Ortega, Joaquin R.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Mazon, Everardo---- Unique.
Martinez Miller, (Orlando) Lando Sixto---- R-709.
Martinez Monteagudo, Serafin---- R-713. Unique.
Martinez Morejon, Ramon---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Olivero, Cesar Ernesto---- R-709.
Martinez Ordoqui, Waldo De J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Ortega, Luciano---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Ortega, Ricardo---- R-709. Unique.
Martinez Paradera (Paradeda), Pablo De J.---- R-713.
Martinez Quevedo, Marmo M.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Ravento (Reventos), Enrique Tito---- R-709.
Martinez Reina, Emilio F.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Reina, Fernando J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Riesgo, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Rivero, Pedro Antonio)---- R-709.
Martinez Rodriguez---- Sergio F.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Roig/ Reig, Oscar G.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Suarez, Jose J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Tosar, Guillermo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez (Urioste) Uriosti, Jose Raul---- R-709.
Martinez Vazquez, Eduardo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Vega, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Venegas, Emilio---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Viera, Domingo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Vilela, Jose M.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Viqueira, Delfin---- R-537. R-710.
Marty, Francisco---- R-537. R-710.
Maruri Albio/ Abio, Angel---- R-537. R-710.
Maruri Landa, Angel---- R-537. R-710.
Maruri Landa, Fernando---- R-537. R-710.
Mas C. [Canosa], Roberto---- R-537. R-710.
Mas Canosa, Jorge---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Mas Estruch, Rafael De La Caridad---- R-729. Unique.
Masser (Nasser) Pujol, Nilo O.---- R-537. R-710.
Masvidal Diaz, Ramon---- R-537. R-710.
Masvidal Jury, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Mateo Sierra, Alfredo---- R-713. Unique.
Mateu (Matas) Rodriguez, Pedro Jesus C.---- R-709.
Matias Vazquez, Martin---- R-537. R-710.
Matienzo Ugartemendia, Roberto Ursino---- R-709.
Matos Gonzalez, David Elias---- R-537. R-710. [See Also David Gonzalez]
Maxwell Almeida Vieites, Augusto---- R-537. R-710.
Maza Barrios, Alfredo De La (M)---- R-537.
Maza (Mazas) Garcia, Miguel A.---- R-713. Unique. [Name Correctrion to Maza from His Nephew]
Mcdowell, Frank M.---- R-731.
Mcgee .... See: Joe Shannon, Hal---- R-732.
Medel (Medell) Blanco, Robert---- R-537.
Mederos, Eligio---- R-537. R-710.
Mederos Baez, Ezequiel---- R-537. R-710.
Mederos Lopez, Cornelio---- R-537. R-710.
Mederos Rojas, Alberto Eladio---- R-709.
Medina, Carlos---- R-537. R-710.
Medina, Rafael---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Castillo, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Estrada, Arael---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Fernandez Fontecha, Menelio---- R-722. Unique.
Medina Fernandez Fontecha, Oscar---- R-722. Unique.
Medina Galis Menendez, Omar P.---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Mouriz, Jose A.---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Perez, Luis M.---- R-537. R-710.
Mellado Rodriguez, Alberto---- R-537. R-710.
Mendez Del (Risco) Risgo, Juvenal---- R-709.
Mendez Fernandez, Orlando Lazaro---- R-709.
Mendez Gonzalez, Plinio Pablo---- R-709.
Mendez (Hernandez) Pradera, Antonio---- R-537. R-710.
Mendez (Menendez) Gonzalez, Francisco---- R-709.
Mendez Rodriguez, Luis P.---- R-537. R-710.
Mendoza, Hector---- R-537. R-710.
Mendoza, Pedro H. De---- R-537. R-710.
Mendoza Delgado, Rolando---- R-537. R-710.
Mendoza Ortiz, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Menendez Medina, Francisco---- R-537. R-710.
Menendez Pou, Manuel E.---- R-537. R-710.
Menendez Rodill, Arturo L.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Menocal (Monocal) Villalon, Alberto---- R-537. R-710.
Mesa Campos, Rene---- R-537. R-710.
Mesa Robert (Robel), Marcos---- R-709.
Mestre Cordoves, Julio Angel---- R-709.
Mestre Fernandez (Mascaro), Oscar L.---- R-537. R-710.
Miguel Rivero, Enrique Teofilo---- R-709.
Milanes Morales, Fernando J.---- R-724.
Milian Diaz, Angel---- R-537. R-710.
Milian (Millian) De La Noval, Jose A.---- R-537. R-710.
Milian Perez, Rogelio---- R-537. R-710.
Milian Valdez, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Milian Velasco, Jose Santos---- R-537. R-709. R-710.
Milo Martinez, Luis (Gualberto) W.---- R-537. R-710.
Minguez Nunez, Orestes---- R-537. R-710.
Mir Pupo, (Elvio) Erbio (Evelio) Juan---- R-709.
Mirabal Hernandez, Orestes---- R-537. R-710.
Miralles Poveda, Salvador---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda, Eduardo---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda, Sixto---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Agramonte, Joe Eugenio De---- R-709.
Miranda Hernandez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Hernandez, Segundo M.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Miranda La Fuente, Jorge De---- R-713. Unique.
Miranda (Olano) Olance, Salvador---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Pino, Rodolfo---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Rodriguez, Raul A.---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Valladares, Alberto---- R-537. R-710.
Mireles (Mirelles) Mampeller (Mompelier), Gilberto---- R-537. R-710.
Miro Torra, Jose A.---- R-537. R-710.
Miron Alvarez, Julio---- R-729. Unique.
Miyares (Millares) Mendoza, Sergio---- R-713 PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Miyares (Miralles) Mendoza, Bernardo---- R-537. R-710.
Miyares Sotolongo, Marcelino---- R-537. R-710.
Miyaya Roman, Rene---- R-537. R-710.
Moas Sanchez, Felix---- R-537. R-710.
(Mole) Molet Rosales, Jose Antonio---- R-709.
Molina Betancourt, Alberto---- R-537. R-710.
Molina Buchillon, Manuel---- R-537. R-710.
Molina Del Rio, Nicolas---- R-537. R-710.
Molina Godinez, Manuel---- R-710.
Molina Perez, Hugo P.---- R-537. R-710.
Molina Quintana, Jesus De La C.---- R-709.
Molina Saiz, Francisco Gustavo---- R-709.
Molina Soriano, Jose L. (Luis)---- R-537. R-710.
Molina Young (Joung), Jose Ramon (Raymond)---- R-709.
Molinet Perez, Candido---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Monso Rojas, Andres---- R-537. R-710.
Montalvo, Juan---- R-537. R-710.
Montalvo Fernandez, Ramiro Alfredo---- R-709.
Montalvo Gutierrez, Jose Rafael---- R-709.
Montalvo Iniguez, Juan F.---- R-537. R-710.
Montero De Armas, (Agustin) Orlando---- R-709.
Montero Diaz, Noelio---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Montero Duque, Juvenal---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Montero Duque, Ricardo M.---- R-537. R-710.
Montero Perez, Rigoberto---- R-537. R-710.
Montero Ruiz, Rigoberto---- R-713. Unique.
Montes De Oca Ceballos, Justo---- R-713.
Montes Pelaez, Juan----- PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Montesino/ Montesinos Canales, Vicente D.---- R-537. R-710.
Montesinos Acosta, Isidro Jesus---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Montesinos Rodriguez, Rigoberto---- R-537. R-710.
Montiel (Maciera) Rivera, Francisco---- R-537. R-710.
Montoto Gonzalez, Hilario---- R-537. R-710.
Montoya Maden, Juan---- R-537. R-710.
Montoya (Montaya) Bruno, Anol (Arnol)---- R-709.
Monzon Ruiz (Luis), Pedro De La Caridad---- R-709.
Monzon Santos, Julio---- R-537. R-710.
Mora Chavez, Juan Alberto---- R-709.
Mora Morales, Candido Santiago---- R-709.
Mora (More) Ibanez, Inocente (Inocencio) T.---- R-537. R-710.
Moralejo Infante, Jose Antonio---- R-709.
Morales Abrante, Cecilio G.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Acevedo, Renato---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Amador, Jose F.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Cordoves (Cordovez), Gonzalo---- R-709.
Morales Cruz, Jose A.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Cruz, Rafael---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Diaz, Santiago---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Moreno, Jesus M.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Navarrete, Miguel G.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Navarrete, Ricardo---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Navarrete, Rolando---- R-729. Unique.
Morales Pelegrin, Miguel G.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Pelegrin (Oelegrin), Hiram Avit---- R-709.
Morales Sanchez, Herminio---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Tomay, Alfredo---- R-729. Unique.
More Hidalgo, Julio A. L.---- R-713.
Moreira Izquierdo, Herberto (Heriberto)---- R-537. R-710.
Moreira Perez, Ernesto---- R-537. R-710.
Morejon Figueroa, Pablo A. (Armando)---- R-537. R-710.
Morejon Hernandez, Ramon---- R-709
Morell Varona, Jose Julio---- R-709.
Moreno, Bernardo---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Alvarez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Hernandez, Enrique---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Hernandez, Marcelino---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Robles, Lucio---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Sedano, Daniel E.---- R-537. R-710.
Morffi Blanco, Sergio E.---- R-537. R-710.
Morgado Lado, Angel---- R-709. Unique.
Morgan Jewell, Clyde---- R-537. R-710.
Morin Rodriguez, Felipe---- R-537. R-710.
Moro Perez, Idelfonso---- R-537. R-710.
Morse De La Barrera, Luis C.---- R-713.
Morse Delgado, Luis Enriquez---- R-709.
Moya, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Moya Garcia, Rolando---- R-537. R-710.
Moya/ Noya, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Muinas (Muina) Bonis, Alberto---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS [Correct Name Spelling Is Bonis by Margarita P. Muiña, Niece]
Muir Celorio, William Denis---- R-709.
Mujica Herrera, Angel Roberto---- R-709 PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Munoz, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz, Rafael---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz De Juan, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz Guidi, Arturo---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz/ Nunez Rojas, Sergio---- R-537. R-710.
Murgado Ledo, Angel E.---- R-537. R-710.
Muriell (Marril) Soto, Pedro---- R-537. R-710.
Murillo Fleitas, Alfredo---- R-537. R-710.
Murillo (Fleitas), Alfredo---- 1963 03-13 Mh12d*
Mursili (Mursull) Collazo (Ollazo), Evangelista Isidro---- R-709.
Mustelier Artigas, Joe L.---- R-537. R-710.
(Mustelier) Muestelier Muestelier, Luis E. (Enriquez)---- R-537. R-710.
Mut Montero, Pablo C.---- R-537. R-710.
Muxo Ibarraguirre, Mario F.---- R-537. R-710.
Muxo Lopez, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Muzio Diaz, Julio---- R-537. R-710.
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_026-050/doc0035.html
344
posted on
01/15/2004 4:19:33 PM PST
by
Hon
To: All
From the same site:
EXPLANATION OF
THE BOP NAME LIST
THERE IS NO COMPLETE LIST of the veterans of the Bay of Pigs in the public domain. All printed lists have SPELLING ERRORS and are NOT COMPLETE. This list is an attempt at completeness, while at the same time, grouping all other lists with their spelling variations.
The area known as "Bayo de Cochinos" is NOT translated properly into "Bay of Pigs". The correct translation should read, the "Bay of the Cochinos Fish". There is a fish known in Cuba as the "cochino" fish.
This list of the Veterans of the Bay of Pigs Invasion includes members of those who landed on the beach at "Playa Giron", Naval personnel, Air Force personnel, members of Operation-40, members of the "Second Wave" which never left Florida, members of certain "Infiltration Teams", members of "Higinio 'Nino' Diaz Ane's Commando Team", the Cuban Revolutionary Council, CRC, certain Americans who participated in support efforts, and others as noted.
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_026-050/doc0034.html Still one would expect that they would get the US military personnel correct.
345
posted on
01/15/2004 4:26:55 PM PST
by
Hon
To: Hon; carlo3b
And your point is??????????
346
posted on
01/16/2004 8:37:21 AM PST
by
Howie
To: Howie
That there were no active duty US military personnel in the Bay of Pigs invasion.
347
posted on
01/16/2004 9:37:41 AM PST
by
Hon
To: carlo3b
What an inspiring human being you are! You have demonstrated the foundation of what this country is about in your compassionate message or the original post of this thread.
Beyond that, immigrants historically have not been the problem when it comes to lack of jobs, anymore than now. It's a lovely ruse to blame the crack-footed family, who survived a trek across the desert to pluck fruit off the vines and branches of our trees. Especially when Ravish Satindar and Ying Lin are seated comfortably at computer stations once manned by American workers, now stationed in Beijing and Delhi or Mumbai, addressing IT concerns of American Express customers. Or, answering billing questions for Americans who dialed the 800 number on the back of their Mastercard. Mega corporations, with global locations have used outsourcing and offshoring and dangled the immigration carrot nicely, veiling the fact that they are removing American jobs and using our borders as a turnstile for profit.
Racism and immigration have served as the target for labor shortages throughout history, generating legislation aimed at controlling immigration. After the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act was signed, Chinese immigration to the U.S. turned illegal. In 1906, the U.S. initiated a "Gentleman's Agreement," that excluded Japanese immigrants. In 1907, the Dillingham Commission was formed to study immigration patterns and effects concluding that "inferior" migrants from places in southeastern Europe, such as Austria--Hungary, Russia, Italy, Turkey, Lithuania, Romania, and Greece, increasingly dominated European immigration. The blame for the nation's problems were laid at the doorstep of immigration and the quality of people entering the country. Doesn't that sound familiar now?
In the late nineteenth century a brain trust of academics, scientists, and assorted "brilliant" minds concluded that any "race" that did not originate in northwestern Europe lacked the mental, physical, or social capacities of Anglo-Saxons. They claimed these "Anglo-Saxon" traits were responsible for the finer points of civilization. Of course, we now recognize this folly as something referred to historically as the Anglo-Saxon myth and know it was used as a racist prop to blame the immigrant for a societys social problems. Those studies gave rise to the study of Eugenics which also was disproven.
In short, Americans have sought out various ways to lay the blame for the ills of our country on what ever wave of immigration appeared to be the current trend and they are doing that now.
Your post gave many of us hope who have grown to wonder if America's lowbrow approach to immigration has reared its ugly head again. I want to commend you for writing a well thought out post and exemplifying what it really means to be an American. You are the finest example of what this country is all about.
Signed
An Immigrant's daughter
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