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Milosevic was right: JIHADIST HOTBED IN THE BALKANS: THE TRUTH IS OUT
Chronicles ^ | January 10, 2004 | Srdja Trifkovic

Posted on 01/12/2004 9:07:00 AM PST by Dan2001

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101 posted on 01/13/2004 2:42:43 PM PST by cwb (ç†)
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To: NYC Republican
The Serbs had a right to control the area, but should have granted Kosovo the autonomy they had for several years before Milosevic stripped it away, essentially leaving the Albanians powerless and voiceless, whereas other pre-Yugoslavia breakup allowed nearly every other minority group with far greater human rights

That's about as far from the truth of the matter as you can get.

The genesis of the recent problems in Kosovo was Milosevic's rescinding the autonomy of the province in 89

Basically, he had to; every other ethnic group in the province were being brutalized by the Albanians. Read it:

Typical highlights:

Ethnic Albanians in the Government have manipulated public funds and regulations to take over land belonging to Serbs. And politicians have exchanged vicious insults.

Slavic Orthodox churches have been attacked, and flags have been torn down. Wells have been poisoned and crops burned.

Slavic boys have been knifed, and some young ethnic Albanians have been told by their elders to rape Serbian girls.

I mean, that's from a NY Times article in 1987 before there was any axe to grind over Kosovo, at least in America.

I mean, calling the AKs barbarians is almost an unjustifiable insult to the memory of guys like Attilla the Hun, Genseric the Vandal, Ragnar Lothbrook...

102 posted on 01/13/2004 3:06:28 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: NYC Republican
Here's another reference for the article

The article is listed as a New York Times article, November 1, 1987, Late City Final Edition (p.14).

That isn't difficult to check up on.

104 posted on 01/13/2004 5:20:41 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
I checked out your link. There it is. You are no liar. In fact, thank you for posting it. I had no idea of just how bad it was for the Serbs as far back as 1987.
105 posted on 01/13/2004 6:11:51 PM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: NYC Republican
Is that egg on your face?
106 posted on 01/13/2004 6:12:42 PM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: Lion in Winter
Don't make fun of somebody for giving up on a bad idea; most people aren't bright enough to do that.
107 posted on 01/13/2004 6:27:06 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: NYC Republican
YOUR POST IS DISGRACE

Attacking a Freeper for teling the truth by using a lie is LIBERAL tactics. You are no Republican, Republjican perhaps.

You owe FReepers an apology for your racist outburst.

108 posted on 01/13/2004 6:45:07 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: DTA
You owe FReepers an apology for your racist outburst.

My racist outburst? Idiot. You and your fellow Milosevic-apologists are the racists, constantly spewing hate against Bosnians and Albanians. And as for David Binder, if one article written 16 years ago is all you have, you don't have much. The atrocities committed by the Serbs dwarf ALL of that.

109 posted on 01/13/2004 6:59:04 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
"You and your fellow Milosevic-apologists are the racists, constantly spewing hate against Bosnians and Albanians."

Oh. You must mean we're spewing hate against the Marxist/Islamic KLA.

So sorry.

110 posted on 01/13/2004 7:02:56 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: NYC Republican
>>>>>My racist outburst? Idiot. You and your fellow Milosevic-apologists are the racists, constantly spewing hate against Bosnians and Albanians. And as for David Binder, if one article written 16 years ago is all you have, you don't have much. The atrocities committed by the Serbs dwarf ALL of that.<<<<

How about 20+ articles from international media from the time Kosovo was not famous.

Your rudeness shows that you are losing nerves. Relax, have a tuljumba, bakljava or some other Albanian- distributed product

111 posted on 01/13/2004 7:10:54 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: NYC Republican
The truth of the whole thing about the Balkans is rather shocking and takes a bit of time to get used to for many Americans. Basically, pretty much every one of the stories about "Serb atrocities" which anybody has ever bothered to run totally to ground turns out to be fabricated BS. The worst case of all is probably the story of the Bosnian Serb "death camp" at Trnopolje, which turned out to be a refugee hostel of sorts.

As near as I can tell by doing my own investigations on the net, pretty much everything Americans have been told by our own media about the balkans over the last decade or so is BS.

Basically, the people accusing Milosevic and other Serbs of crimes are the Klintons, Madeline Albright, George Soros, Wesley Clark, and a number of their fellow travellors. I mean, what more should you need to know?

112 posted on 01/13/2004 9:09:01 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
opps, it isn't eggg at all... it is something alot more smelly. Perhaps we should offer this Albanian a rag for his face so he can wipe it off.
113 posted on 01/14/2004 1:01:22 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: greenwolf
Basically, the people accusing Milosevic and other Serbs of crimes are the Klintons, Madeline Albright, George Soros, Wesley Clark

Some of the most despicable people in our society, to be sure, but, to think that everything was made up (200,000 graves of all ethnicities lie throoughout what was Yugoslavia) is to live in a parallel universe... denial is your friend I guess.

114 posted on 01/14/2004 4:48:25 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Lion in Winter
Perhaps we should offer this Albanian

FYI, I'm not Albanian. In addition, have the courtesy to include me in your response of you're going to talk about me.

115 posted on 01/14/2004 4:49:18 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
Your natural inclination is to think what you are thinking, i.e. "They COULDN'T have made it ALL up...". In the case of normal people, you'd be right. In the case of the Klintons and their spin machine and the NATO spin machine, that's wrong. They could and did make it all up.

There were about a baker's half dozen real reasons for wanting to do Kosovo and, together, they did not add up to a case; the pentagon advised Slick not to do it. The overriding concern at the time was the Juanita Broaddrick story on the front pages of American newspapers and journals. Something clearly had to be done and quickly, and Kosovo turned out to be the something.

Real world reasons for Kosovo included:

Note the absence of anything resembling concern over Albanian Kosovars in the list. Albanians, like chechens and palestinians, are feral people. No sane person actually gives a rat's ass over what happens to them.

116 posted on 01/14/2004 5:31:17 AM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
No sane person actually gives a rat's ass over what happens to them.

Ok, it's time to take a breath and stop letting this al-Qaeda apologist get under your skin. Yes, Kosovo has been overrun by the KLA narco-terrorists and the vicious Albanian nationalists (represented on FR by such types as Hoppy), but there's no way we should let that anger spill over to those Albanians who managed to live in peace with their Serb neighbors in Kosovo (and who will do so again when Kosovo is reunited with Serbia).

Don't let the idiots drag you down to their level!

117 posted on 01/14/2004 6:49:40 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: NYC Republican
It's NOT from the NY Times, it's from SPRSKA, the BOSNIAN SERB enclave... Total lies.

No, it clearly is from the New York Times.

If you had a shred of character, you'd apologize for falsely accusing another Freeper of lying.

We await the results of this test of your character.

118 posted on 01/14/2004 6:58:59 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: FormerLib
It is very easy for a blind to see the problems of the Islamic fanatics in Bosnia.

1)The Moslem president supported by the US reneged on an agreement with the EU to power share with Christians.

2) The Moslem president of Bosnia awards CITIZENSHIP to Osama bin Laden

3) The Moslem president of Bosnia declares in his book "Islamic Declaration" that he intends to build a great Islamic federation spreading from Moracco to Indonesia, from tropical Africa to Central Asia!

4) The Bosnian jihadists document found in Al Qaeda camp urges the fighters to suicide operations against amusement parks like Disney! I cannot imagine how any REAL American can continue to support our policy in Bosnia.

119 posted on 01/14/2004 7:25:37 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: FormerLib; greenwolf
We await the results of this test of your character

First of all, I don't need to prove anything to you. Secondly, Greenwolf - I apologize for calling you a liar. You took the liberty of painting your slant with this comment "every other ethnic group in the province were being brutalized by the Albanians" which was your comment, not necessarily Binder's.

As I said, a 17 year old article which, of which the facts as Mr. Binder saw them, were not substantiated in any well-known publication since, does not support your argument.

You were able to produce evidence of the article, so I rescind calling you a liar on that front.

120 posted on 01/14/2004 7:50:20 AM PST by NYC Republican
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