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To: narby
McGovern lost in 72 - and launched the left's takover of the Dem party

Totally disagree with you on this war. But read your tagline and more than agree. It has got even worse since then. If Dean is the Dem nominee- there is a serious chance even Massachusetts will vote Bush. Dean will be defeated so badly it might even be the death knell of the Democratic Party.

Just a comment on the Democratic party now. When the McGovern faction took over - they were at least still idealistic and believed in their policies and ideology. They don't believe in anything anymore than pure power. Do you think there is one Democrat who actually thinks Federal no frills Welfare is a "good policy"? Or that their support of teacher's unions and their anti choice stances is going to "help kids?" Nope. They don't believe one word they themselves say anymore. I need only point to one example of how easily they betray anything they once stood for- the Impeachment vote and Senate trial of Bill Clinton. And who is the head of the DNC? Terry MaCauliffe- who resembles the small town near-do-well who peddles pyramid schemes in between used car sales jobs.

When the Dems critisize the war in Iraq it is worthless jibberish. If they were in power they would be calling any opposition to the war "treason" just as they did against Republicans who raised doubts and objections to Clinton's disgusting "wag-the-dog" wars.

44 posted on 01/12/2004 4:27:27 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
When the McGovern faction took over - they were at least still idealistic and believed in their policies and ideology. They don't believe in anything anymore than pure power.

Piling on here...

I look at the New Deal coalition (updated of course), upon which Democratic power is based, as inevitably decaying as well. What platform can possibly satisfy outspoken gays, blue-collar workers, African-Americans, Latino immigrants, radical feminists, and limosine liberals? Kick out a single one of those groups and national power is gone for them. Yet the interests of those groups are in frequent conflict. And any balancing act eventually fails.

51 posted on 01/12/2004 7:52:50 PM PST by Snuffington
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