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To: proxy_user
the ONLY MAIN issue was FREEDOM for dixie.

that is the plain unvarnished TRUTH.

the damnyankee apologists want to say that chattel slavery was the issue, as it makes their merciless,hateFILLED,imperialist war against the new dixie republic and the THOUSANDS of atrocities against innocent civilians & helpless CSA POWs look better. the damnedyankee apologists,otoh, KNOW better.

free dixie,sw

21 posted on 01/13/2004 10:26:20 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Here are two damnyankee apologists, Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephans (President and Vice President of the Confederacy) had to say on the matter. I have enshrined it on my home page whenever revisionists try this game.

The following is from the message to the Confederate Congress April 29th 1861 from Jefferson Davis:

" As soon as the Northern States that prohibited African slavery within their limits had reached a number sufficient to give their representation a controlling voice in the Congress, a persistent and organized system of hostile measures against the rights of the owners of slaves in the Southern States was inaugurated and gradually extended. A continuous series of measures was devised and prosecuted for the purpose of rendering insecure the tenure of property in slaves... Senators and Representatives were sent to the common councils of the nation, whose chief title to this distinction consisted in the display of a spirit of ultra-fanaticicsm and whose business was... to awaken the bitterest hatred against the citizens of sister states, by violent denunciation of their institutions; the transaction of public affairs was impeded by repeated efforts to usurp pairing the security of property in slaves, and reducing those States which held slaves to a condition of inferiority. Finally a great party was organized for the purpose of obtaining the administration of the Government, which the avowed object of using its power for the total exclusion of the slave States from all participation in the benefits of the public common acquired by all the States in common, whether by conquest or purchase; of surrounding them entirely by States in which slavery should be prohibited; of thus rendering the property in slaves so insecure as to be comparatively worthless, and thereby annihilating in effect property worth thousands of millions of dollars. This party, thus organized, succeeded in the month of November last in the election of its candidate for the Presidency of the United States. In the meantime the African slaves had augmented in number from about 600,000 at the date of the adoption of the constitutional compact to upward of 4,000,000. In moral and social condition they had been elevated from brutal savages into docile, intelligent, and civilized agricultural laborers, and supplied not only with bodily comforts but with careful religious instruction. Under the supervision of a superior race, their labor had been so directed as not only to allow a gradual and marked amelioration of their own condition, but to convert hundreds of thousands of square miles of the wilderness into cultivated lands covered with a prosperous people; towns and cities had sprung into existence, and had rapidly increased in wealth and population under the social system of the South;... and the productions in the South of cotton, rice, sugar, and tobacco, for the full development and continuance of which the labor of African slaves was and is indispensable had swollen to an amount which formed nearly three-fourths of the exports of the whole United States and had become absolutely necessary to the wants of civilized man. With interests of such overwhelming magnitude imperiled, the people of the Southern States were driven by the conduct of the North to the adoption of some course of action to avert the danger with which they were openly menaced."
GAME. SET. MATCH.

This is for extra credit. It comes from a speech in Savannah on March 21st 1861 by Alexander Stephens, VP of the Confederacy.

" The (Confederate) Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions- African slavery as it exists among us- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split" He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away...Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it- when the "Storm came and the wind blew, it fell." Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition. This, our new Government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth......It is the first government ever instituted upon principles in strict conformity to nature, and the ordination of Providence, in furnishing the materials of human society. Many Governments have been founded upon the principles of certain classes; but the classes thus enslaved were of the same race, and in violation of the laws of nature. Our system commits no such violation of nature's laws. The negro by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system. The architect in the construction of buildings, lays the foundation with the proper material- the granite- then comes the brick or the marble. The substratum of our society is made of the material fitted by nature for it, and by experience we know that it is the best, not only for the superior but for the inferior race, that it should be so. It is, indeed in conformity with the Creator. It is not for us to inquire into the wisdom of His ordinances or to question them.

I like to think of them both as leading liberals of their time. And, just like all liberals the moment they were exposed and undone the lies started that continue to this day. Since the "inferior race" was enshrined in the constitution of the confederacy, just when would the South have freed the slaves? Or would those fine revisionists on Free Republic be defending their ownership today-calling those that would free them trolls and liberals. What if the Confederacy had reached a cease fire in the 1860's? If America was split in half like many here seem to want, how many slaves would they own? Technological advances did not free the slaves. The Cotton Gin only made them more valuable. Would today the South be a booming tech hub since the labor would be free? With modern medical and farming advances just imagine the labor pool you could breed. It would be practically free and technology including DNA would virtually prevent the economic loss of runaway slaves.
Oh, back to your post.
the ONLY MAIN issue was FREEDOM for dixie.
that is the plain unvarnished TRUTH.

the damnyankee apologists want to say that chattel slavery was the issue, as it makes their merciless,hateFILLED,imperialist war against the new dixie republic and the THOUSANDS of atrocities against innocent civilians & helpless CSA POWs look better. the damnedyankee apologists,otoh, KNOW better.

Freedom for the whites only. And, we will just pretend that Davis and Stephens never admitted the truth.
1,103 posted on 03/12/2007 8:20:58 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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