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Dean urged Clinton to take unilateral action in Bosnia
USATODAY ^ | 01/14/04 | Steve Komarow

Posted on 01/13/2004 10:23:48 PM PST by Pikamax

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Dean urged Clinton to take unilateral action in Bosnia By Steve Komarow, USA TODAY Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean, a strong critic of what he calls President Bush's unilateral approach to foreign policy, urged President Clinton to act unilaterally and enter the war in Bosnia in 1995. (Related item: Text of letter) "I have reluctantly concluded that the efforts of the United States and NATO in Bosnia are a complete failure," he wrote, citing reports of genocide during the Bosnian civil war. "If we ignore these behaviors ... our moral fiber as a people becomes weakened. ... We must take unilateral action."


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KEYWORDS: 2004; balkans; bosnia; dean; howarddean; howeirddean; x42
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1 posted on 01/13/2004 10:23:48 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-01-14-dean-letter_x.htm

Posted 1/14/2004 12:00 AM


Howard Dean letter to President Clinton
Below is the text of Howard Dean's letter to President Clinton on the conflict in Bosnia, dated July 19, 1995.
The Honorable William J. Clinton

President of the United States

The White House

Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

After long and careful thought, and after several years of watching the gross atrocities committed by the Bosnian Serbs, I have reluctantly concluded that the efforts of the United Nations and NATO in Bosnia are a complete failure.

I think your policy up to this date has been absolutely correct. We must give, and have given, this policy with our allies and with the United Nations every opportunity to work. It is evident, however, that the cost in human lives in allowing this policy to continue is too great. In addition, and perhaps more importantly for the United States, we are now in a position of ignoring, as many did in the 1940s, one of the worst crimes committed in history. If we ignore these behaviors, no matter where they occur, our moral fiber as a people becomes weakened. As the Catholic Church and others lost credibility during the Holocaust for not speaking out, so will the United States lose credibility and our people lose confidence in themselves as moral beings if the United States does not take action.

Since it is clearly no longer possible to take action in conjunction with NATO and the United Nations, I have reluctantly concluded that we must take unilateral action. While I completely agree with you that no ground troops should be committed for other than humanitarian purposes in Bosnia, I would ask that you take the following steps in Bosnia. First, lift the arms embargo as it applies to the Bosnian government. Second, enforce a full embargo of the sort that is now in effect in Iraq on the Bosnian Serbs and upon Yugoslavia. Third, break off diplomatic relations with Yugoslavia. Fourth, commit American air power to support the Bosnian government until the situation is stabilized and the civilian murders and atrocities by the Bosnian Serbs have been stopped.

I understand the risks of this policy and their implications for the NATO Alliance and the future success of the United Nations. Surely, however, as you watch and read about the huge amount of unwarranted human suffering, particularly of children, you would agree that our current course must now be changed.

I urge you to make these changes as soon as possible, and I look forward to supporting your policy fully to the best of my ability.

Sincerely,

Howard Dean, M.D.

Governor

2 posted on 01/13/2004 10:24:26 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
The modern 'Just War' principles according to Dean:

The use of force is just so long as there's a Democrat in the White House.
The use of force is wrong if there's a Republican in the White House.

3 posted on 01/13/2004 10:42:45 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
So, Dean is the originator of IRANGATE and Bringing AL-QAEDA into Europe?

Without Bosnia there would be no 9-11

Thank you Mr. Dean, thank you Mr. Clintoon

4 posted on 01/13/2004 11:01:42 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: Pikamax
Unbelievable.

We must give, and have given, this policy with our allies and with the United Nations every opportunity to work

How long was this policy given to work? We gave Iraq 12 years.

Since it is clearly no longer possible to take action in conjunction with NATO and the United Nations, I have reluctantly concluded that we must take unilateral action

I'm really at a loss for words. Dean is a lying hypocrite. He is USING this war in Iraq for purely political purposes. I really thought he was standing on prinicple - even though I thoroughly disagreed with him. He has no principles. He is just another 'Rat slimeball.
5 posted on 01/13/2004 11:01:49 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: DTA
bttt
6 posted on 01/13/2004 11:02:34 PM PST by JohnHuang2 ("GW is driving the Rat Lunatics into a deeper (QUAGMIRE OF) insanity every day," says Grampa Dave)
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To: Pikamax
You just have to wonder --- HOW did this memo from Dean come to light at the USAToday?

Strange forces are coming to play - against Dr. Dean...

Semper Fi
7 posted on 01/13/2004 11:04:18 PM PST by river rat (Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
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To: JohnHuang2
The modern 'Just War' principles according to Dean:

The use of force is just so long it benefits Islamonazis.

Never forget !

8 posted on 01/13/2004 11:16:17 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: Pikamax
If Bush had done exactly the same things as Clinton did in Bosnia, he would be vilified by the dims.
9 posted on 01/14/2004 3:02:35 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: tkathy
Unfortunately, the mess in the Balkans started with Bush Sr.

In his book, "The Politics of Diplomacy: Revolution, War and Peace, 1989-1992," former Secretary of State James Baker wrote, "After the meeting, I had Larry Eagleburger take Silajdzic (former Bosnian Prime Minister Haris) to see the EC troika political directors (who happened to be visiting the Department) and asked Margaret Tutwiler to talk to the foreign minister about the importance of using Western mass media to build support in Europe and North America for the Bosnian cause. I also had her talk to her contacts at the four television networks, The Washington Post, an the New York Times to try to get more attention to focus on the story."

In other words, President Bush, Mr. Baker, Mr. Eagleburger, et al, never intended to be impartial in the Bosnian civil war and were willing, if necessary, to present a distorted, anti-Serbian bias to the American people and a favorable image of the Bosnian Muslims regardless of their shadowy part in the war.

Eagleburger himself said that Bosnian Muslims are being killed everyday in Bosnia Herzegovina and we have to show to the Islamic world that we care and are willing to do something about it.

This, then was to be our foreign policy and we are seeing the results today. Islam along with al Qaeda's terrorists today have their Bosnia corridor into Europe.

The sad part about it is that the mess we created is being ignored by the West and the Albanians now have their eye on the Southern part of Serbia, Macedonia (FYROM), Montenegro, and a chunk of Northern Greece. And it will happen using the same methods that they used to steal Serbia's Jerusalem in Kosovo - by self-inflicting atrocities.

10 posted on 01/14/2004 3:35:42 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: DTA
Thank you for posting this.

11 posted on 01/14/2004 3:37:50 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: Pikamax
This is huge news! Further proof that all of the Dims (except for Martian Kucinich) would have attacked Iraq as well. Of course, they'd have botched the job like Clark did, but the point remains.

The only reason Democratic politicians criticize this war is because it wasn't prosecuted by one of their own.


12 posted on 01/14/2004 3:40:50 AM PST by GulliverSwift (The problem with Dean isn't just that he's insane, it's also that he's a complete liar.)
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To: Pikamax
"If we ignore these behaviors ... our moral fiber as a people becomes weakened. ... We must take unilateral action."

When I saw this headlined on Drudge, I thought it would just be an interpretation of Dean asking for unilateral action. But when I read the story, Dopey Dean actually WROTE "WE MUST TAKE UNILATERAL ACTION." I wonder how Dr. Dean will explain this away? BTW, how did this letter become public? Since the letter was written to Clinton guess, who the source of this news was.

13 posted on 01/14/2004 3:46:36 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: river rat
HOW did this memo from Dean come to light at the USAToday?

Look at WHO the letter was addressed to and you have the answer.

14 posted on 01/14/2004 3:48:11 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: Pikamax
I see the fingerprints of Bill Clinton all over this and the timing of this release!
15 posted on 01/14/2004 3:52:39 AM PST by TheBlueMax (Liberate the Oppressed)
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To: TheBlueMax
I see the fingerprints of Bill Clinton all over this and the timing of this release!

Yup! The Clintons have been sitting on this letter for a long time and released it just before the Iowa caucuses to screw Dean bigtime. Believe me, if the Clintons favored the nomination of Dean, this letter would never have seen the light of day this election cycle. They are probably sitting on damaging info on Weasley Clark but won't use it against him as long as he stays "on reservation."

16 posted on 01/14/2004 3:56:15 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: TheBlueMax
It will be FUN to hear Dr. Dean's excuse on this one. I expect Rush to talk about this today.
17 posted on 01/14/2004 3:58:01 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: PJ-Comix
Fascinating, isn't it? Yes, this definitely came from the Clintons.

What is interesting is how the party is breaking into two groups, eitiher pro or anti Clinton.

I do believe the convention is going to be really a fun-filled five days!

18 posted on 01/14/2004 4:08:55 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Pikamax
The July 19, 1995, letter, obtained by USA TODAY, was written on Dean's official stationery as Vermont governor.

Open up your records, Gov. Dean!

19 posted on 01/14/2004 4:16:45 AM PST by auboy (Regurgitated whine? No thanks, I'll pass.)
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To: PJ-Comix
LOL

Kinda hard to misinterpret that.

20 posted on 01/14/2004 4:18:10 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Pikamax
I wish they would stop picking on my man Howie. Just because he's a lying phony is no reason to keep hammering him like this. If this keeps up he'll lose the nomination and one of the other clowns will win and Bush might only win 47 states.
21 posted on 01/14/2004 4:18:23 AM PST by Larry381
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To: TheBlueMax
I see the fingerprints of Bill Clinton all over this and the timing of this release!

Assuming that's the case (and they actually read mail from Governor Dean, and saved it), we finally have something to thank the Clintons for.

I promise not to make fun of the ugly pants suits for at least three days.

22 posted on 01/14/2004 4:22:34 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: baseballmom; Miss Marple
You all know what this means?

The Clintons have decided it is time to bring Dean down.....watch the next few days.....they will destroy Howie....with leaks.

23 posted on 01/14/2004 4:39:47 AM PST by Dog (Impersonating Pigpen since 1956)
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To: William McKinley
William I bet this came from the President Clintons Presidential archives..
24 posted on 01/14/2004 4:41:32 AM PST by Dog (Impersonating Pigpen since 1956)
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To: Dog
You all know what this means?


25 posted on 01/14/2004 4:44:34 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: JohnHuang2
My brother just left for a year long stint as a UN Peacekeeper in Bosnia. He is a member of the Michigan Nat'l. Guard. What a waste. They should be along our borders, not in Bosnia.
26 posted on 01/14/2004 5:20:30 AM PST by rintense (Legal Immigration . Nothing else.)
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To: Pikamax
His advisers say his stance has remained consistent over the years

The only thing consistent about this flip flopper is his flip flopping on ever issue.

He has absolutely no basics or core values to fall back on.

Bush "sold the war on the basis of an imminent threat to U.S. security, and that has now been shown to be false," Ben-Ami said.

That statement by Ben-Ami is a bold faced lie.

Bush made it very clear that to wait until the threat becomes imminent is NOT an option.

27 posted on 01/14/2004 5:23:27 AM PST by evad (Welcome back Joe Gibbs...we've been waitin')
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To: grania
Don't prematurely thank them. This is the start of some diabolical moves by the Clintons.
28 posted on 01/14/2004 5:25:49 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Pikamax; okie01; Wolfstar; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom
Kudos to USA Today for this article, especially their bitch-slapping of the latest incarnation of the imminence front routine at the end.
29 posted on 01/14/2004 5:27:53 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard Dean - all bike and no path)
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To: DTA
bttt
30 posted on 01/14/2004 5:29:23 AM PST by Dante3
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To: river rat
"You just have to wonder --- HOW did this memo from Dean come to light at the USAToday? "


Dingdingdingdingding. Yes. That was my first thought. The CLINTON'S fingerprints are all over this.
31 posted on 01/14/2004 5:33:51 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: river rat
Clintons??????????????
32 posted on 01/14/2004 5:37:54 AM PST by cynicom
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To: DTA
Actually Dean was right, at least about lifting the arms embargo. If the Croats and Bosnians and had been permitted to respond to the Serbian land grabs early on the situation was be immeasurably better today, and we probably would never have had to get involved. It woulda still been messy, but nothing remotely like cluster-#&( that resulted from the Euroweenies and internationalists actively interfering with the ability of people in the Balkans to defend themselves and their homes.
33 posted on 01/14/2004 5:40:17 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Doctor13
Eagleburger himself said that Bosnian Muslims are being killed everyday in Bosnia Herzegovina and we have to show to the Islamic world that we care and are willing to do something about it.

One Worlders; every single one of them.

34 posted on 01/14/2004 5:42:51 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Pikamax
I'm not sure which is worse:

1) That Team Xlinton would resort to such blatant stumping tactics, leaving their fingerprints all over this "leak".

Or

2) That they think the Average American is dumb enough to NOT see how obvious this is.
35 posted on 01/14/2004 5:46:37 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!")
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To: Pikamax
Nothing like seeing a politician reveling in slow self destruct mode. Keep talking Dean ... .
36 posted on 01/14/2004 5:47:53 AM PST by nmh
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To: Doctor13
In other words, President Bush, Mr. Baker, Mr. Eagleburger, et al, never intended to be impartial in the Bosnian civil war and were willing, if necessary, to present a distorted, anti-Serbian bias to the American people and a favorable image of the Bosnian Muslims regardless of their shadowy part in the war.

Eagleburger himself said that Bosnian Muslims are being killed everyday in Bosnia Herzegovina and we have to show to the Islamic world that we care and are willing to do something about it.

And the fact is he was right. But you're wrong that Bush I supported the Bosnians against the Serbs, just because of the words you quote. Words are cheap. The Bosnians and Croats needed arms, and Bush I agreed with keeping the embargo in place. The Yugoslav army was overextended in Croatia, and ditto the land-grabbing Bosnian Serbs (representing, what 10-20 percent of the population, but trying to control 60-70 percent of the land).

The only thing the Serbs had going for them was that they were much better armed (thanks to the Russians). Had we and the Europeans allowed a fair fight, the situation probably would have sorted itself out and stabilized fairly quickly. We would have never had to get involved, nor would the Islamonazi jihadists (previously foreign to and unpopular in the region) have been giving the golden opportunity to plant their noxious tentacles midst the drawn out and festering strife.

37 posted on 01/14/2004 5:53:11 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Pikamax
"As the Catholic Church and others lost credibility during the Holocaust for not speaking out..."

Dean is a despicable worm, how dare he criticize the only entity ON THE GROUND in Eur. during those dark days to stand against the wholesale slaughter.

This gratuitous knock on the church gives us a clear idea of how deeply he knows history and religion.

38 posted on 01/14/2004 5:54:36 AM PST by Pietro
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To: rintense
They should be along our borders, not in Bosnia.

Agree about Bosnia, but then as I've said in other messages that's to a great extent our (and the Europeans) own fault for not supporting the principle of self-defense in the Balkans from the beginning. But on the border? Each 10,000 troops cost about $1,000,000,000 to train arm and support. Border guards can be trained, equipped and compensated (I feel certain) for much less. Militarizing the borders would be an unconscionable waste of valuable resources, IMHO.

That said, best wishes for your brother, and thanks for his service.

39 posted on 01/14/2004 6:02:56 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Pikamax
This letter isn't a good reflection on Weasley Clark either. If one thinks about it. I wonder if Wes will have any reaction to this.

Prairie

40 posted on 01/14/2004 6:13:40 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Was O'Neill being blackmailed or did Clinton call in the aluminum favor? Only the Shadow knows.....)
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To: All
FOX news going to be talking about this story in a couple minutes...

Prairie
41 posted on 01/14/2004 6:14:23 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Was O'Neill being blackmailed or did Clinton call in the aluminum favor? Only the Shadow knows.....)
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To: baseballmom
Well said and ditto for me! Scumbucket loser. (Dean, not you.)
42 posted on 01/14/2004 6:16:25 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: Dog
Did you hear that the Hillary for President group will be running a lot of ads touting Hillary for Prez during the next week in Iowa? Chilling.
43 posted on 01/14/2004 6:21:32 AM PST by twigs
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To: Pikamax
When Dean became a doctor he thought he was taking the Hypocritic Oath.
44 posted on 01/14/2004 6:22:04 AM PST by metesky (My investment program is still holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: All
This clearly brings to light the hypocrisy of Howard Dean.

On a side note, DTA is on a mission to spew his drivel on anything Balkans-related... Implicating Bosnia with 911 is a disgrace... He's clearly intent on riding the wave of anti-Islamic views and placing his racism on clear display.

45 posted on 01/14/2004 6:24:41 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: baseballmom
The first mistake is in ever assuming that liberals have principles.

Until they prove differently, as with recent actions by Zell Miller, I assume that have nothing to offer the country other than divisive talk.

46 posted on 01/14/2004 6:27:48 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Pikamax
Ha, ha, ha, ha!

What a maroon.

47 posted on 01/14/2004 6:32:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: river rat
You just have to wonder --- HOW did this memo from Dean come to light at the USAToday?

It just turned up behind Hillary's bed.

48 posted on 01/14/2004 6:34:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Pikamax
Mr. liar liar pants on fire.
49 posted on 01/14/2004 6:49:09 AM PST by demlosers
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To: prairiebreeze; All
Very perceptive, Prairie; Clark
PROSECUTED the "unilateral" war
that Dean called for. And I would
add, the one Clinton ORDERED.

This a Democrat hypocrisy, not an
exclusivly Dean one.

Way to go!
50 posted on 01/14/2004 6:53:59 AM PST by txrangerette
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