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3 dead in Lilburn (GA) home invasion
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^
| 01-12-04
| MIKE MORRIS
Posted on 01/14/2004 9:06:48 AM PST by Kennesaw
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:06:49 AM PST
by
Kennesaw
To: Kennesaw
Actual Quote from Wilmette Illinois Cheif of Police George Carpenter, Jan 8, 2004 1:00 PM:
Wilmitte, Illinois
"If a resident believes there is an intuder in their home late at night, choosing to use a handgun actually reduces your family's safety. We want the Wilmette resident instead to immediately lock the door to the bedroom and dial 9-1-1, which will connect them in seconds to telecommunicators at the Wilmette Police Department. These experienced proffesionals will keep you on the line giving instuctions, and will ask relevant, important questions designed to result in a quick and effective police response. Your family's safety is far more likely to be preserved by calling 9-1-1, and allowing experienced police officers to search your home, than by arming yourself and searching your home in the dark without calling police."
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:15:02 AM PST
by
m1-lightning
(Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
To: Kennesaw
This is why guns should never be banned. I'm glad you found this article.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:20:33 AM PST
by
m1-lightning
(Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
To: RobFromGa; Jen; Guillermo; viligantcitizen; Phoenix44; "Be not afraid!"; dansangel; .45MAN; ...
Just damn! This is maybe 10 miles from here. Closer to Guillermo, I believe.
I heard an early report on this around 7AM while out getting gas in the wife's car. That report was sketchy and generic, and I thought it could have been drug related.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:23:36 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
Yikes! I got home from taking my kitty to the vet an hour ago and discovered my front door was unlocked. I hadn't opened it today, which makes me wonder if I left it unlocked all night! Well, it's locked now! And I'll be sure to be more vigilant. Thanks for the ping.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:44:39 AM PST
by
Jen
(The FReeperette formerly known as AntiJen)
To: FreedomPoster
Tucker High is right around the corner from me...
Terrible tragedy...there is really nothing to comment on...
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:47:43 AM PST
by
Guillermo
(It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
To: Jen
From Neal Boortz' webpage:
HOME INVASION ... THREE DEAD
We had a home invasion robbery near Atlanta last night. The predator broke into one home and stole a car. Then he broke into another home where he got into a fight with the occupants, a 55 year-old man and his 17 year-old son. The homeowner and his son didn't have a gun. The predator did. The man and his son are dead.
The predator was later tracked into the woods by police canine units. He shot one of the dogs and the police responded with gunfire of their own. The predator, thank God, is dead.
I don't know why the homeowner didn't have a gun in his home. Perhaps he believed some of that idiotic nonsense about guns being used more frequently to kill family members than to ward off criminals. Maybe he used to live in Chicago where it would have been illegal for him to even own a handgun, unless, of course, you're a high-level politician or friend of the mayor.
I hope some of you anti-gun nuts read this bit today. Here's a predator who had a gun, and a homeowner who didn't. The homeowner is dead. So is his son. What great work you anti-gun people are doing. Are you proud?
No ... I don't know about the condition of the dog. I'll update you. But for now let's just rejoice in the death of the predator.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:49:08 AM PST
by
CFW
To: FreedomPoster
Whew tried to post back twice and got dropped by the server.
What a terrible thing. He sounded like a nice guy, who raised a nice son. Pity a firearm wasn't handier. I still haven't heard yet the details. I wonder how he targeted these homes?
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:50:44 AM PST
by
doodad
To: FreedomPoster
FP, please ping me also if there are significant developments on this.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:54:24 AM PST
by
LTCJ
(Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
To: Kennesaw
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To: m1-lightning
HA! We are armed for self defense in out house, and it ain't locked up in a lockbox somewhere, gathering dust. And we sure as hell aren't going to hide in our bedroom with our kids in their's.
We have a plan and a back up plan worked out so if something like this happens, we can act, and act quick. Since it would be stupid to do so, no details here, but we have practiced it, with our 3 sons, so even if some panic sets in, we (mainly me and hubby) (ok, mainly me) would all have a notion of what to do. Just like fire drills.
Of course, they gotta get past the big black lab first; she don't take kindly to strangers.
This from a woman who used to be vehemently anti-gun. Then I got edumacated on firearms, and what was once fear is now knowledge. What a difference.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:58:00 AM PST
by
eyespysomething
(Another American optimist!)
To: doodad
I think they are saying it was random. Pure chance.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:58:37 AM PST
by
eyespysomething
(Another American optimist!)
To: m1-lightning
"Actual Quote from Wilmette Illinois Cheif of Police George Carpenter, Jan 8, 2004 1:00 PM:"
The quote by the Chief is both un-American and a damnable lie. That it is a lie this "professional" MUST be aware.
Makes you wonder what this "professional" is really after? It simply is BEYOND DEBATE that this "professional" knows perfectly well that he spoke a lie.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:58:59 AM PST
by
TalBlack
("Tal, no song means anything without someone else...")
To: eyespysomething
Pure chance. Right, I heard that too. But, what tempted him if it was random? No dog? Type of door? How did he make entry to these two homes? Etc.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:06:21 AM PST
by
doodad
To: FreedomPoster
.45MAN and I heard this on the 5am news. When I got to work I learned that the elder Bill Venable and the husband of a co-worker (also a coach) are (were) friends.
A totally senseless tragedy. Prayers for all concerned.
This is why there is a chair propped under the front door's knob (only entrance to apt) and guns at the ready each night when we retire. Call me paranoid, but this *is* Atlanta.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:19:48 AM PST
by
dansangel
(*PROUD to be a knuckle-dragging, toothless, inbred, right-wing, Southern, gun-toting Neanderthal *)
To: eyespysomething
Sounds quite iffy to me also, where something smells.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:27:54 AM PST
by
Maigrey
(Cows: The perfect Animal. Eat their meat, boil their bones for Soup, and Wear their Skin for Clothes)
To: CFW
Thanks for that info. I'm glad we have some firearms in our home for protection against something like this. I feel safer defending myself and my home rather than cowering in a bedroom waiting for help to arrive like the 'experts' suggest.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:36:13 AM PST
by
Jen
(The FReeperette formerly known as AntiJen)
To: Kennesaw
I just sent their police department the following:
I just read, with utter amazement, your statement about being safer by calling 911 than using a firearm for self-defense. I'm glad I live in Florida. We still adhere to "Castle Doctrine" (see Black's Law Dictionary) and are proud to defend ourselves from intruders with deadly force. Our families are ultimately safer and the criminals obviously think that it IS a deterrent.
Steve Westbrook
Jacksonville, FL
P.S. This is America. We do still have the Second Amendment. Wake up.
To: Jen
Thanks for that info. I'm glad we have some firearms in our home for protection against something like this. I feel safer defending myself and my home rather than cowering in a bedroom waiting for help to arrive like the 'experts' suggest.Actually, hiding out in the bedroom while waiting for the cops, is a good idea.
You should, however, be in there with a reliable, and loaded, shotgun.
Searching your home for an intruder is, in general, not a good idea.....even if your armed. Wait for him to come to you.
To: Dixie Pirate
If you get a reply, please post that too.
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posted on
01/14/2004 11:01:59 AM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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