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Apache Killing Video becomes viral news
Journalism.co.uk ^
| 14 January 2004
| Jemima Kiss
Posted on 01/15/2004 9:15:41 AM PST by 11th_VA
A graphic US military video showing the killing of three Iraqi people is being circulated via the web after appearing on US TV news channel ABC News.
The one-minute file, filmed from a US Apache helicopter, shows three apparently unarmed people being shot with 30mm cannon fire. The clip was cut from a longer video obtained by ABC News last week and verified by a senior US army official.
The MPEG format file has been posted to several right-wing US forums, where the main concern seems to be to celebrate the effectiveness of the Apache's firepower.
So far though, in spite of its graphic nature, the film does not seem to have attracted much criticism from the anti-war movement.
Tony Sleep, a freelance photographer in the UK, was one recipient of the file. He was emailed a link to a US academic site that temporarily hosted the MPEG file.
"It's very uncomfortable to watch because it's so calculated," he told dotJournalism. "It's quite pornographic actually."
Video download (WARNING: some viewers may find this material disturbing): http://www.journalism.co.uk/imagesn/apache.mpeg
See also: http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/US/apache_video_040109.html
TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; dontshootatthecopter; enemy; iraq; killed; millertime; mistified; taxwellspent
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Whew ... they never saw it coming ...
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:15:42 AM PST
by
11th_VA
To: 11th_VA
"killing of three Iraqi people..."
"The MPEG format file has been posted to several right-wing US forums..."
Nah, no bias there. /sarcasm
To: 11th_VA
We are at war, the pilots are suppose too kill people and break things.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:18:59 AM PST
by
SeeRushToldU_So
(No, I don't watch rasslin'. I am from Georgia and sound like it too.)
To: 11th_VA
Before they flipped on the video recording, they were tracking these terrorists...also, they were hiding something next to what appeared to be a tractor and when the first guy got pulverized, the 2nd guy ran for the "unknown" object. I think we all know what it probably was (RPG for you Palm Beach voters).
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:19:25 AM PST
by
smith288
(Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
To: 11th_VA
Yes I'm outraged, what a waste of ammo. They should have been able to take them out without wasting so many shots.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:21:02 AM PST
by
apillar
To: 11th_VA
Lesson #1. When hiding under a truck with an apache shooting your friends, don't stick you head out and "take a look..."
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:21:27 AM PST
by
2banana
To: 11th_VA
The MPEG format file has been posted to several right-wing US forums, where the main concern seems to be to celebrate the effectiveness of the Apache's firepower. The MPEG format file has not been posted to several left-wing US forums, where the main concern seems to be to downplay the effectiveness of the Apache's firepower.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:22:44 AM PST
by
martin_fierro
(HEY! I'm tryin' t'run a classy thread here!)
To: smith288
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:22:53 AM PST
by
11th_VA
To: 11th_VA
"It's very uncomfortable to watch because it's so calculated," he told dotJournalism. "It's quite pornographic actually." What a wuss. The video is on Kazaa too, BTW.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:23:40 AM PST
by
alnitak
("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
To: 11th_VA
MMMmmmmmm. Thirty millimeter....
I wonder what their range was..
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:23:58 AM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: 11th_VA
I obtained this video from someone on the "inside" who also had access to the full video. The second "unarmed person" who was killed was seen handling a shoulder fired rocket (the same kind being used to down our choppers). Those three people were not shot for target practice. They were the enemy.
To: 2banana
"Lesson #1. When hiding under a truck with an apache shooting your friends, don't stick you head out and "take a look..."
I love a good game of Whack-A-Mole ©
To: apillar
I've seen this. FLIR footage.
As a former Marine, I can't help but think that should have been only three shots fired.
The MPG is quite graphic. The guy caught in the open gets splattered. FLIR picks up heat and the whole area glows from his blood being splashed around.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:25:25 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
To: 11th_VA
Heh, heh, heh... I just had to back and watch that one again. I'm glad that I saved it to my hard drive; it took forever to download and I've got a DSL line!
They sure did make a mess outta that first guy. Oh well... Jihad happens. (Not that that's anything a Euroweenie would understand.)
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:25:58 AM PST
by
Redcloak
(It's life, Jim, but not as we know it.)
Comment #15 Removed by Moderator
To: 11th_VA
Anyone have a link to the video? As a right-wing extremist I'd like the celebrate the effectiveness of the Apache.
To: 2banana
"When hiding under a truck with an apache shooting your friends, don't stick you head out and "take a look...""
It wouldn't have mattered. That 30mm cannon can shoot through truck engines w/ little difficulty. You don't even have to hit a peson directly to blow them to pieces. You can shoot the ground 10 feet away and the intended target will be pulp.
To: RandallFlagg
"I wonder what their range was.."
400 meters.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:27:51 AM PST
by
Timesink
(I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
To: Dead Corpse
"FLIR picks up heat and the whole area glows from his blood being splashed around."
A lot of the heat signature seen on the video is the fragmented 30mm rounds (and a good helping of terrorist chunks).
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