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To: af_vet_1981
You don't hear the mobs shouting for his [Lipka's] crucifixion. It's always about Pollard, the Jew. Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you.

True. But no one is trying to spring Lipka, either. I think a lot of the backlash on JJP is that he is trying so hard to get out (and so many others are pulling for him). A lot of people say, "hey, I knew secrets, and I will take them to my grave, so screw this guy."

I think part of the reason Lipka got such a mild sentence is this: he was 52 at sentencing. 18 years (and these days, a federal sentence means, probably, staying in crowbar motel) will take him to age seventy. I bet the prosecutors would rather not try a national security case that's thirty years old, if they can hit the guy pretty hard with a plea.

If he was an NSA guy any American lives he cost were indirect ones, for example by providing the KGB good CI take.

Speaking of pleas, Pollard had one where the prosecutors agreed not to seek life. As I understand it, they didn't but the judge piled on on their behalf. A technicality, but small comfort to Pollard.

Like many gentiles I often wonder if Jews are too quick to blow the whistle on anti-semitism. After seeing what comes up when you Google "Israeli spies," I don't think they're being unreasonable now. There are a LOT of people out there who hate Israel and who just flat out hate Jews. You read their stuff and you want to bathe.

I'll keep trying to find some more references to Israeli espionage in open sources. There's stuff I can't talk about cause it's secret, and stuff that might not be secret but I won't repeat cause it's hearsay -- and there's clearly a lot of people dealing from a point of hostility to the nation of Moses and Abraham, here...

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

49 posted on 01/15/2004 8:23:44 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Criminal Number 18F
He is being made an example of, and deservedly so. He is a US citizen and we will NEVER let him go (in order to discourage others). Worse, the Israelis don't know when to shut up. For many people who like me, are otherwise disposed to give them a break, reminding us of this case by begging for his release just p*ss*s us off. Face it, Israel is not the 51st state. They have different interests than we do.
50 posted on 01/15/2004 8:31:44 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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