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Park Ranger Freezes To Death While Camping
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| 1/16/04
| Posted to AP
Posted on 1/16/2004, 5:38:52 PM by Rebelbase
Victim's Body Spotted By Helicopter Crew
FRANCONIA, N.H. -- A New Hampshire park ranger who had been involved in many hiker rescues froze to death while camping in the White Mountains this week.
Authorities say 37-year-old Kenneth Holmes, who lived in Athol, Mass., was reported missing Wednesday. Friends say he was a park ranger at Monadnock State Park.
Holmes' body was spotted by a helicopter crew Thursday in the White Mountains in Franconia.
Temperatures in the mountains Wednesday dropped to minus 44 degrees with a wind chill approaching 100 degrees below zero.
Fish and Game Lieutenant Robert Bryant said Holmes was well-equipped, but that having a tent, stove and good sleeping bag isn't always enough in the extreme cold of this week.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: cold; death; weather
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-44 below zero...Man that is cold and add the wind it goes to -100...pure insanity to be recreational camping in that environment.
I've been out in the mountains for a weekend at -10 below and that cured me of ever wanting to winter camp again.
To: MotleyGirl70
Stay warm.
To: Rebelbase
-44 below is 56 degrees colder than it was on Mars yesterday (at least in the area our Rover is exploring).
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:40:50 PM
by
Mr. Mojo
To: Rebelbase
Real cold.
With enough snow, a man can build an igloo. Even in bitter cold, the interior temp won't get much below 30F. It takes time, though, and it's not something you could do right the first time without help.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:42:42 PM
by
Timm
To: Rebelbase
sad.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:43:08 PM
by
Wheee The People
(If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
To: Mr. Mojo
"-44 below is 56 degrees colder than it was on Mars yesterday (at least in the area our Rover is exploring). "And it's a dry heat too.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:43:47 PM
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: Rebelbase
Imagine what it must have been like in January 1942 for the German soldiers wearing summer uniforms in that kind of weather.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:47:11 PM
by
fso301
To: Rebelbase
If he was inside the tent, windchill wasn't a big factor (I always dismiss windchill, it's an exaggerated "tall tale" metric).
Still it's hard to find a sleeping bag rated at -44F. Even the best expedition mountaineering bags top out at around -20F or -30F (I think Marmot and a couple others might have -40F bags).
The sad truth in these cases is that it's almost always the victim's own bad judgement.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:52:36 PM
by
angkor
To: fso301
I think more about the boys on our side in Bastogne.
To: Rebelbase
Athol, Mass."Athol" sounds like the perfect place for the Kennedy clan to be from.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:55:09 PM
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: newgeezer
LOL
To: newgeezer
LOL
They are a clan of "atholes"
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:57:19 PM
by
AAABEST
To: Rebelbase
BBBBRRRRR. I like camping, but wouldn't do it in winter. There is no tent or sleeping bag that could keep me warm enough.
I've downhilled skiied tons of times in -20 below weather in northern Wisconsin and THAT's cold enough for me.
Fish and Game Lieutenant Robert Bryant said Holmes was well-equipped, but that having a tent, stove and good sleeping bag isn't always enough in the extreme cold of this week.
Holms should have just stayed home. -100 below zero! Some people lack simple common sense.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:57:52 PM
by
MotleyGirl70
(My tagline was killed in Ted Kennedy's car.)
To: angkor
If he was inside the tent, windchill wasn't a big factor (I always dismiss windchill, it's an exaggerated "tall tale" metric).The ranger broke a cardinal rule - going out in such extreme conditions alone. And that in turn raised the question - if he had a winter expedition tent, was he even able to get it pitched in those kinds of winds ... and would the tent have been able to withstand those winds if he got it pitched?
Those are the kinds of conditions you get on McKinley or Everest on a bad day. Just because a mountain is only 6,000 feet high, it doesn't mean it still can't kill you.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 5:59:29 PM
by
dirtboy
(Howard Dean - all bike and no path)
To: MotleyGirl70
Some people lack simple common sense. enough said
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posted on
1/16/2004, 6:00:00 PM
by
petercooper
(DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
To: angkor
(I always dismiss windchill, it's an exaggerated "tall tale" metric).Just a few years ago, the NWS supposedly adjusted the windchill chart to better reflect the true effects of wind. Without a doubt, wind -- and therefore, windchill -- accelerates the onset of hypothermia. (But, not inside a tent, of course.)
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posted on
1/16/2004, 6:00:13 PM
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: angkor
When I stayed out -10 it was in a 5 degree bag on a foam pad in a tent. I stayed cured in a fetal position all night with my boots and water bottle inside the bottom of the bag. It was a miserable night.
To: Rebelbase
As a South Floridian, I once vacationed in Pennsylvania, and on that day, it was a record cold, some 17 below zero. Now, I had grown up in Kansas and had experienced some cold winter days, but this was like NOTHING I had ever experienced. Even inside the "warm" interior of the car, you could feel the outside environment sucking the heat out of your body. I had the heater on full blast, and yet my skin, where the air wasnt directly hitting, was cold! The air temps couldnt have been that cold, but the surface of the cars interior (headliner, glass, etc) was freezing, and I was radiating heat out to these surfaces, thus the cold temperatures I was feeling (similar to when frost forms overnight, even though the air temps remain above freezing, heat still radiates out to space.).. it was uncanny and painful.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 6:04:22 PM
by
Paradox
(Cogito ergo boom.)
To: fso301
Imagine what it must have been like in January 1942 for the German soldiers wearing summer uniforms in that kind of weather.Or American soldiers similarly equipped at the Bulge in 1944.
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posted on
1/16/2004, 6:05:15 PM
by
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
To: angkor
You're right. I did a quick check at LLBean. Their most robust sleeping bag is only rated -20F.
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