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SHOULD SADDAM HUSSEIN BE EXECUTED? ( FREEP ALERT!!! )
KQED Public Service ^ | 16 January 2004 | KQED (PBS) San Francisco

Posted on 01/16/2004 7:24:44 PM PST by Robert Drobot

Should Saddam Hussein be executed?

Poll being conducted by San Francisco PBS TV station KQED.

Know that if you answer YES, you will be asked:

Are you sure?....and asked to vote it up or down again. If you vote YES, you will be asked:

What if you knew that the United Nations (UN), the European Union (EU), and many of the world's spiritual and political leaders are opposed to the death penalty?.....and asked to vote it up or down again. If you vote YES, you will be asked:

What if you knew that most international human rights organizations oppose the death penalty and some Iraqis do not want Saddam Hussein to be executed?......and asked to vote it up or down again. If you vote YES, you will be asked:

What if you knew that some argue killing Saddam would create a martyr and could inspire further terrorism?......and asked to vote it up or down again. If you vote YES, you will be asked:

What if you knew that some argue only a trial by the International Criminal Court, which does not allow the death penalty, would fairly review all the evidence, including Saddam's past relationship with the United States and other countries??

THE VOTE TALLY IS NOW OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST INSANE'S EXECUTION.

What say you???


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; defundpbsnpr; eatsitanddie; genocide; justice; localcourts; localjustice; massmurder; nationallaw; pbs; publicbroadcasting; saddamites; saddamontrial; survivors; taxdollarsatwork; turture; un; worldcourt; youpayforthis
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1 posted on 01/16/2004 7:24:44 PM PST by Robert Drobot
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To: Robert Drobot


Git a rope...
2 posted on 01/16/2004 7:27:12 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Robert Drobot
They really work at getting you to say NO!@ Don't give them the satisfaction!



Should Saddam Hussein be executed?

Yes 47 27%
No 127 73%


BTTT BTTT BTTT
3 posted on 01/16/2004 7:31:24 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Execute him and dont take too long to do it.
4 posted on 01/16/2004 7:33:02 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Robert Drobot
The Iraqi people should decide. My bet is that they would quickly decide he should hang.
5 posted on 01/16/2004 7:33:11 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Darn it, I'm freeping here at work, and the site is filtered out as entertainment! Arrgghhh!
6 posted on 01/16/2004 7:33:41 PM PST by jim35 (A vote for Tancredo is a vote for the DemocRATs.)
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To: Robert Drobot
The results are, at this point, absolutely pathetic!
7 posted on 01/16/2004 7:34:59 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: Robert Drobot
What kind of screwed up poll is this? They gave me 4-5 reasons why he shouldn't and I had to vote yes after each reason. Did they do this for the no's?
8 posted on 01/16/2004 7:35:16 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Robert Drobot
Boy, they really try to get you to see their point of view, now don't they???


BTTT
9 posted on 01/16/2004 7:35:21 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: Robert Drobot
No. He should be put in the same cell with Manuel Noriega.
10 posted on 01/16/2004 7:36:41 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Robert Drobot
Since when do the junkies, faggots, socialists, and general human(?) debris in San Francisco have anything at all to say about the internal affairs in Iraq? Methinks they are being a bit presumptous.
11 posted on 01/16/2004 7:37:38 PM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)
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To: SouthernFreebird

Master Sergeant John C. Woods, of San Antonio, Texas, readies the noose for the hanging of convicted Nazi criminals. Woods, the official executioner for the US Army, said, "I hanged those 10 Nazis and I am proud of it!"

12 posted on 01/16/2004 7:38:31 PM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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To: Robert Drobot
BIG DEAL!!! Did you read the end - it gives the arguement on both sides depending on how you vote. Besides, this is PBS - who is going to see this but PBS type people (all 200 of em)?

13 posted on 01/16/2004 7:38:38 PM PST by al_again
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To: Robert Drobot
FReeped.
14 posted on 01/16/2004 7:38:50 PM PST by blam
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To: Robert Drobot
Congrats. Anyone voting just gave another Web hit to NPR - the people behind this "poll".
15 posted on 01/16/2004 7:38:50 PM PST by Old Sarge (Operation Noble Eagle - We Watch, So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Robert Drobot
I doubt that any Iraqi's get KQED on cable, so it's a bit irrelevant what Babylon-by-the-bay thinks ought to happen in Babylon.
16 posted on 01/16/2004 7:41:15 PM PST by Redcloak (Beer: It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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Should Saddam Hussein be executed?
 
Yes 80 39%
No 127 61%

It's getting there...

17 posted on 01/16/2004 7:44:37 PM PST by Redcloak (Beer: It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Brett66
Yes, it does it for the "no" answers too. I voted yes, but stopped reading the explainations as soon as I saw the bit about the U.N. saying the death penalty is wrong.
18 posted on 01/16/2004 7:48:24 PM PST by MetalMan
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To: MetalMan
KQED forgot to ask if I gave a rat's ass about their editorializing and opinion-moulding b.s. Pity.
19 posted on 01/16/2004 7:53:13 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Robert Drobot
Given that is has been reported that Saddam has cancer and that it is untreatable, our Doctors found this at the time of his capture, what difference will it make??

If he does have cancer and may well be dead within the space of 18 months, he may never have a trial, and if he does may not be in any condition to participate in it.

This bodes for a very anticlimactic ending of the whole affair.
20 posted on 01/16/2004 7:55:09 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Robert Drobot
I voted YES for death to Saddam.

What follows are my comments on their bulletin board:

"Who is the flaming moron responsible for this so called "poll"?
For crying out loud, it really is a Yes or No question. Rather, what do we get? "Oh, your answer is "Yes". Well, then, are you sure? "Yes" again. Are you REALLY sure?" "Yes" yet again. "Well, then, are you REALLY REALLY sure?"

What the hell kind of poll is this?

If you socialist, limp wristed panty waste dorks don't want an HONEST ANSWER to a simple question, then by all means, don't ask the question in the first place.

Here's a better poll question for you. "Should the San Francisco Bay are be quaranteed from the rest of America? Should those that live there be placed at the mercy of the rest of the world with NO SUPPORT (financial, social, medically or militarily) whatever from the rest of the United States? A simple YES or NO response is sufficient. My vote would be an absolute YES."

Let then stuff that in their crack pipe and smoke it.

Liberals = a good arguement for retro-active abortion.

21 posted on 01/16/2004 7:56:03 PM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)
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To: Brett66
The 'NO' voters - after their initial vote are asked:

Are you sure?......Voting NO again, they are asked:

What if you knew that the Bush administration and the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) support the death penalty and have advocated its use in bringing Saddam to justice??......Voting NO again, they are asked:

What if you knew that many American and Iraqi citizens support the death penalty for Saddam What if you knew that there is a historical precedent for the execution of war criminals?......Voting NO again, they are asked:

What if you knew that some argue the severity of Saddam's atrocities warrants the death penalty?

So far the vote from the city that dares boast it's the home of the The Gorbachev Foundation of North America is showing its commie colors.

22 posted on 01/16/2004 7:56:20 PM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Robert Drobot; Chani
for later consumption
23 posted on 01/16/2004 7:58:24 PM PST by Chani
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To: The Great RJ
The Iraqi people WILL decide. Anyone else's opinion on this topic is just the wind blowing.
25 posted on 01/16/2004 8:05:41 PM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy New Year!)
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To: Howie66
If you knew that some of the best seafood restaurants in the world were there would you still vote to cut off San Francisco?
26 posted on 01/16/2004 8:05:47 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Robert Drobot
Let his own people do the conviction, and commit the execusion. If we do it, he martyrs. If they do it, he dies in disgrace to his religion as he didn't die taking infidels with him. Additionally, he fails to go to his heaven with his virgins.

Red
27 posted on 01/16/2004 8:06:44 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: Baynative
Yes 110 46%
No 128 54%
28 posted on 01/16/2004 8:06:59 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: Robert Drobot
They also ask you four or five times if you vote "no" with repeated explanations of the pro-death penalty arguments.

Seems pretty balanced to me, and they didn't change my mind.

Swing that sucker from the nearest tree!

29 posted on 01/16/2004 8:11:34 PM PST by metesky (TGIF! Time for some alcohol- involved posting!)
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To: BulletBobCo
YES - 48%
NO - 52%

What an assinine poll. Loaded with PROPAGANDA!
30 posted on 01/16/2004 8:12:36 PM PST by goodnesswins (Adversity makes us bitter or better.)
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To: Brett66
yes, they do... they give you BOTH sides of the poll, kind of neat
31 posted on 01/16/2004 8:12:58 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (He who has never hoped can never despair.)
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To: TigersEye
"If you knew that some of the best seafood restaurants in the world were there would you still vote to cut off San Francisco?"


You betcher sweet Lobster-tails I would. In a heartbeat!
32 posted on 01/16/2004 8:13:55 PM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)
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To: Howie66
What if you knew it was a favorite vacation spot for millions of Americans would you still vote to cut off San Francisco?
34 posted on 01/16/2004 8:15:58 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: WingedGlory89
Maybe he thought he was doing what he thought was right,...

What do you mean maybe? He definitely did and so did Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao ........... what's a few million murders between friends?

35 posted on 01/16/2004 8:18:25 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Robert Drobot
I agree with Winston Churchill.

After the end of World War Two, he wrote in his memoirs (sorry I cannot recall his exact words) that it was an historical certainty that the dictators of the losing sides of a war would meet with tragic ends.

The reason he felt this was a very bad idea, was that a dictator has no reason to end a war early, and save many lives, not to mention saving property with which a nation could rebuild itself.

Case in point: Adolf Hitler.

I do NOT mean to defend him or his actions in ANY WAY, I do want to make that perfectly clear, as did Winston Churchill.

Hitler had NO REASON to give up, and surrender to the allied forces. He was going to die after the war, he knew that. So why should he bother to end the war early? He had no personal reason to do that, so the war was fought to the bitter end, and Germany was just about totally destroyed.

IF there was a precedent, or it was the norm, for a contrite ex-dictator to voluntarily give up and surrender, and receive not immunity, but instead banishment to a safe place, there would be GOOD REASONS to end a war sooner.

As it was, and still is, an ex-dictator has NO CHANCE of living out his life in exile after a war. So, what is the point of ending the war before the bitter end? None at all, as far as a dictator is personally concerned.

Anyone who has read Alfred Speer's books ("Inside the Third Reich", and "Twenty Years in Spandau") would have to agree that it would be a very, very worthwhile endeavor to force an "outlaw leader" to live out his life, AND to write down his memoirs.

The resulting book would then be used by future generations in ways we cannot imagine to prevent wars we cannot imagine, and most likely, would have benefits of which we simply cannot conceive.

Unfortunately, the Nurenburg trials ended with the death sentence for the Nazi leaders (except for Hitler and Hess), and so their thoughts are lost to history. So, since we do not, and now never will, know their viewpoints and the reasons they acted as they did, the same thing could easily happen again. Simply killing Saddam Hussein would serve no purpose at all, other than "revenge". What we, and future generations need to know basically come down to three things, and they are VERY IMPORTANT!

1) Why did this happen?
2) How did this happen?
3) How can we prevent this from happening again?

If Saddam Hussein is killed, I assure you that his death will be a rallying call for many, and the results will be ugly. The United States will look like the "bad guy", for sure.

If he could be placed in a safe "lock-up" facility, and FORCED to write his memoirs (with help, of course), the result might be something quite extraordinary.

Reading the memoirs of a contrite Saddam Hussein just MIGHT make a lot of "jihadists" rethink their position, and make the world a better place. In fact, the memoirs of Saddam Hussein just MIGHT be the most powerful weapon we will ever have with which to fight the "War on Terror".

He's going to die someday anyway, and I am sure there is a Final Judgment awaiting him. BUT if we can get some good out of him, making the world a better place, by getting him to write his memoirs, I am sure that he could NEVER be a rallying point for extremists, the USA would not look like the "bad guy", AND:

Future generations would thank us.

Let's not think of only the present. Keep Saddam safe, and learn what we can from him.
Historians of the future are watching.
Dammit, I should be a politician!
36 posted on 01/16/2004 8:18:42 PM PST by RonHolzwarth
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To: WingedGlory89
"Should Saddam be killed? Maybe so, but why are we so quick to see him dead in this perspective we are no different then him. Maybe he thought he was doing what he thought was right, or maybe he is just crazy. So why don't we just let him spend the rest of his miserable life in prison."

If you would have read my first response to this "poll", you would see where I made the point that the fate of Saddam is the business of the Iraqi people.

Since this "poll" did not list that as an option, then I went with the only logical choice in my opinion: death for Saddam.

37 posted on 01/16/2004 8:18:58 PM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)
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To: Robert Drobot
Sounds like a push poll if I ever saw one. The originators of the poll KNOW the response that they want to see.
38 posted on 01/16/2004 8:19:18 PM PST by weegee
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To: TigersEye
You betcher booties, Granny!
39 posted on 01/16/2004 8:21:57 PM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)
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To: Howie66
What if you knew that the questioners in these multi-layered polls don't give a rat's ass what your answer is would you still vote to cut off San Francisco?
40 posted on 01/16/2004 8:23:59 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Robert Drobot
Should Saddam Hussein be executed?

Yes 128 50%
No 129 50%
41 posted on 01/16/2004 8:24:24 PM PST by weegee
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To: Robert Drobot
BTTT
42 posted on 01/16/2004 8:26:27 PM PST by Porterville (I am Hispanic and Republican a old but growing political force.)
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To: TigersEye
Actually, I'd like to see the Bay area used as a training ground for our Naval, Air and ground forces.

Just think what a wonderful night-time display we could create.....
43 posted on 01/16/2004 8:26:40 PM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)
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To: Robert Drobot
Talk about your classic manipulation w/ the four pages of arguments trying to convince "voters" of voting against execution!!!!!!!
44 posted on 01/16/2004 8:29:43 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Howie66
The vote is now in favor of execution.

What evil could possibly merit the death penalty more than what this evil man did? The citizens of Iraq will know what to do.
45 posted on 01/16/2004 8:31:36 PM PST by gogipper (Judgement at Nuerenburg ...... Judgement at Baghdad)
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To: Robert Drobot
We're pulling out ahead, Freepers!

Yes 133 51%
No 129 49%
46 posted on 01/16/2004 8:31:40 PM PST by Nan48
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To: weegee
Check out the other polls there too.
47 posted on 01/16/2004 8:32:46 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Howie66
What if you knew that Steam Anchor beer was made in ... oh never mind.

Thank you for participating in this poll. As a token of appreciation you will receive a pair of gay cupie dolls suitable for hanging from your rear view mirror or your trailer hitch. Please exit the building to the right and watch out for falling debris.

48 posted on 01/16/2004 8:33:21 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Nan48
Yes 141 52%
No 129 48%
49 posted on 01/16/2004 8:33:24 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: Nan48
Put my vote in...YES!
50 posted on 01/16/2004 8:35:02 PM PST by Hotdog
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