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Welsh star in race row (LOTR's John Rhys-Davies makes anti-Muslim remarks)
IC Wales ^ | Jan 18 2004 | Lucy Ballinger

Posted on 01/18/2004 9:25:33 PM PST by Michael2001

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To: Rytwyng
There's a couple of things going on here. First, "racism" is the accusation that everybody condemns, so we can call this the modern McCarthyism.

Second, Islam is actually the conversion of other peoples to the Arab race. The Koran is only correct in Arabic and converts are encouraged to take Muslim names.

Third, Islam has no independent morality. If you are Islamic, whatever you do is good and for the glory of Allah. That is why Muslims instinctively defend Muslims -- even those that kill other Muslims. They're all of the same team, the same tribe, if you will. If you are Islamic, however, no matter how much good you do, you are not a moral person.

101 posted on 01/19/2004 9:18:53 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Jeff Head
Adam Price, Plaid Cymru MP for Carmarthen East & Dinefwr

The kind of man (sic) who will be so senstive and understanding he will send his daughters off to school in a birqua in a few years, because he knows that muslim boys can't help trying to rape her otherwise.

102 posted on 01/19/2004 9:24:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Michael2001
Tolkien's story of good versus evil as a metaphor for modern race relations.


That sound you are hearing is JRR Tolkien spinning in his grave.
103 posted on 01/19/2004 9:45:11 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Michael2001
May God bless John Rhys-Davies for having the courage to say the truth, even if its unpopularity may ruin his career. He is a fine actor and I have enjoyed his work in the Indiana Jones movies, The Living Daylights, and especially The Lord of the Ring saga.

We need more people like him willing to speak as simply, and to the point about the dangers facing Western civilization today. If people fail to take note, life as we know it is doomed to fail.

104 posted on 01/19/2004 9:51:23 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: Michael2001
Why is it when Pat Buchanan says essentially the same thing regarding America (you know that nation we live in) he is branded as a heretic, nazi, whacko, nutcase?? Pesonally I love my European heritage, have lived there and am saddened at the devolution of their culture. Mr Rhys-Davies speaks for me as both an American and one of those of dead white guys so hated here. Wish we had some like him in our entertainment culture who would fall on their sword for principle and love of country. He must be a descendent of Llywelyn "The Great".
105 posted on 01/19/2004 9:55:10 AM PST by strongbow
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To: bootless
It's about a society that wishes us converted to Islam, or dead.

I'm in agreement. We have to look at the bottom line. The Muslim cultures don't want to integrate into our culture, they want us to adapt to them.

106 posted on 01/19/2004 9:56:16 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: backhoe
Now I can go see ROTK again and cheer on Gimli -- while swallowing the bile I taste whenever leftiepuke Viggo Mortenson comes on screen.
107 posted on 01/19/2004 10:00:55 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Michael2001
"Rhys-Davies....interprets Tolkien's story of good versus evil as a metaphor for modern race relations."

This isn't about race. It's about ideology. What an ignorant statement.

"I'm burying my career so substantially in these interviews that it's painful. But I think there are some questions that demand honest answers."

That's another big difference between the right and left. A conservative will realize that actions have consequences and they are more likely to count the cost before shooting off their mouths whereas a lefty will shoot off his mouth at will and then be surprised , or even outraged, when there are consequences.

"The actor's over-the-top views were criticised by Tolkien Society publicity officer Ian Collier."

Truth is over the top now? These journalists are so clueless it's almost painful how they contort words.

"His attack on Muslims and comments about the threat that they pose to Western society shows his ignorance of world events and the true teachings of Islam."

Umm, no, Mr. Price. That statement makes it quite clear that it is YOU who are ignorant.

"we celebrate what is good in cultures and challenge what is bad in civilisations."

I believe that is precisely what he was doing.

"I feel sorry for this actor because he must feel very insecure about his future. I feel sorry for his close mindedness."

What a patronizing, BS statement. At least Mr. Davies knows who, and what, he is. He has his eyes wide open, and he speaks the truth. The demons of darkness (and Islam) have always hated the truth. Exposure represses their power. Thank God for him and others like him, who have a handle on what really matters and are not afraid to stand up for what is right, even if it means making personal sacrifices.

"We are losing the ability to sit down and be able to have a tolerable argument."

BINGO! And that is the intention of political correctness. It hasn't got a thing to do with being sensitive. True sensitivity would cut both ways. PC never does.

"But I will stand by this: Western Christianised Europe has values and experience that is worth defending."

BRAVO! High time somebody said it.

108 posted on 01/19/2004 10:02:34 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Budge
Ping for a great post!
109 posted on 01/19/2004 10:03:09 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: AmishDude
Political Correctness is the new McCarthyism. The left uses it to silence any opposition. Dead white European ideals are on the PC "out" list. Vegan metrosexuals who support socialism are "in".
110 posted on 01/19/2004 10:18:44 AM PST by weegee
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To: Bogey78O
"Arab culture is regressive by all standards and it's promulgation in the West while silencing any Western thought in their own countries is a tragedy."

No; what has actually happened is that white, western society has been conditioned to feel guilty for our superior culture and in that false sense of guilt we have allowed the encroachment of a dangerous ideology into Western society. That is as ignorant as deliberately putting yourself at risk of a deadly disease because you feel guilty for being healthy. Islam is a cultural cancer. They are what they are. They will not change. WE are the ones who have to fight the "disease" instead of facilitating it. If we fail to do so, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

112 posted on 01/19/2004 10:19:19 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: sheik yerbouty
"I predict a rise in his career"

Perhaps he and Mel Gibson could team up to recreate the film industry.

113 posted on 01/19/2004 10:22:36 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Bobby777
"Saudi defense minister says churches will never be allowed in Saudi Arabia"

That is racist and intolerant. I demand an apology. < /sarcasm >

114 posted on 01/19/2004 10:23:57 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Stewart_B
Thanks. This member of the National Rifle Association likes your tagline.
115 posted on 01/19/2004 10:31:39 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Thanks. This member of the National Rifle Association likes your tagline, too.
116 posted on 01/19/2004 10:33:39 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: sweetliberty
what has actually happened is that white, western society has been conditioned to feel guilty for our superior culture and in that false sense of guilt we have allowed the encroachment of a dangerous ideology into Western society. That is as ignorant as deliberately putting yourself at risk of a deadly disease because you feel guilty for being healthy. Islam is a cultural cancer. They are what they are. They will not change. WE are the ones who have to fight the "disease" instead of facilitating it. If we fail to do so, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

BINGO! You hit the nail on the head. The cancer called Islam must be cut from the body called Western Civilization or it will the destroy the body.

117 posted on 01/19/2004 10:42:11 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess
"I daresay the majority of white Britons AGREE with his comments, but most will not say so publicly for fear of being called "racist" -- the worst thing you can be in this day and age. "

Yep, and we need to take the wind out of the racebaiters' sails. The best way, in my opinion, to do that is to refuse to react to the term "racist." Our responses should be along the lines of "sorry you feel that way" or "so?" Or just ignoring it altogether. We need to STOP being afraid of being called racist. I think there are actually very few of us to whom it applies and those who try to defend themselves against the term are going to lose the argument anyway. That's a foregone conclusion, because the objective isn't reasonable resolution of real racial problems; it is using the term like a slaver's whip to keep us in line. No minds will be changed and you can't "prove" to such people that you're not a racist, because it is irrelevant anyway, so responsibility for that "opinion" needs to fall back on the person throwing around the term.

118 posted on 01/19/2004 10:42:12 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: sweetliberty
We need to STOP being afraid of being called racist.

What I say is "if you want to call me a racist, fine, I don't care" and just ignore it and go on.

119 posted on 01/19/2004 10:44:54 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess
Yep. As good a way to handle it as any. The worst thing to do is react.
120 posted on 01/19/2004 10:47:02 AM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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