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Work of the Hague tribunal in Racak case criticized
BERLINER ZEITUNG ^ | 2004-01-17 | Markus Bickel

Posted on 01/19/2004 11:27:35 AM PST by DTA

Berliner Zeitung, Saturday, January 17, 2004

No interest in fallen Serbs Work of the Hague tribunal in Racak case criticized
Markus Bickel

SARAJEVO/HELSINKI, January - Finnish pathologist Helena Ranta has expressed lack of comprehension regarding the work of the UN's Hague tribunal in the case of the so-called massacre of Racak.

In an interview with "Berliner Zeitung", the head of the forensic team sent by the EU to investigate occurrences in the Kosovo village of Racak in January, 1999, criticized that indications of serious fighting between Serbian soldiers and Albanian fighters on the night of 15th to 16th of January, 1999, in the Racak area had been inadequately pursued.

The tragedy in the Kosovo village exactly five years ago in which more than 40 Albanians died was used by Western politicians to convince the public of the necessity of the approaching NATO attack on Yugoslavia. U.S. diplomat William Walker played a central role. The chief of OSCE's Kosovo mission immediately accused the Serbs of having summarily executed 45 unarmed Albanian civilians in Racak. The Serbian side rejected this view and spoke about UCK fighters fallen in battle.

Photos not published

Ranta said she knows that "KLA fighters were buried near to Racak" at that time. "I had already gotten information proving that there several Serbian soldiers were also shot. Unfortunately, we will probably never find out the exact number of the Serbs that fell on that night." The question needs to be asked "why the Tribunal is not interested in this number." Ranta criticized that the indictment against the Yugoslav ex-president Milosevic in the Racak case largely follows the version of events put forward by Walker. "If ambassador Walker says that there has been a massacre in Racak, that statement has no legal effect. Even at that time I expressed that the OSCE observers had forgotten all the steps one usually expects by way of protection of the scene: its isolation, the exclusion of unauthorized persons as well as gathering of evidence." Ranta demanded the publishing of the pictures of two other photographers in addition to the OSCE photos of the scene which were also taken a few hours before the arrival of the OSCE observers.

The pictures showed "that at least one of the bodies was later moved. This body did not appear in the OSCE pictures."

Left in a lurch

During the days before beginning of the NATO attacks on Yugoslavia it was clear "that a whole series of governments had an interest in a version of Racak events which held only the Serbian side responsible," said Ranta. "However, I could not provide them with this version." She had gotten her instructions from the German diplomat, Ambassador Pauls, the representative of the German EU presidency of that time, who asked her to prepare a written tatement.

"Afterwards I had to show this individual statement to William Walker, who was obviously far from enthusiastic when he read it." Nevertheless, she agreed to participate in the important news conference on March 17, 1999. "On that occasion, I sat together with the German ambassador in Belgrade, Gruber, and a Finnish diplomat on the stage. I hoped that both men would support me." Unfortunately, that was not the case. "Instead, I had the feeling of having been left in a lurch," said Ranta. As a the result of this news conference dominated by Walker, most media considered the version of a Serbian massacre over Albanian civilians confirmed. Few days later the NATO air attacks on Yugoslavia began.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; campaignfinance; clinton; clintonlegacy; icty; kangaroocourt; kangarookourt; kla; kosovo; nato; racak; racakhoax; serbia; thehague; un; wacokid; weaselyclark; wesleyclark
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To: Wraith
Wraith, you couldn't flame your way out of an oxygen tent if someone handed you an acetylene torch.

You've already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that arguing the merits of a case is beyond your severely abbreviated abilities, which is forgivable.

What is damnable, however, is your appalling incompetence when it comes to issuing meaningful, cogent insults.

41 posted on 01/22/2004 10:11:50 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Again I take your babble as a compliment by once again getting under your old leathery skin......
42 posted on 01/23/2004 2:55:24 PM PST by Wraith
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To: Wraith
Zzz...
43 posted on 01/23/2004 2:57:59 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: wonders; getoffmylawn; Incorrigible; joan; DTA; Fusion
A very good observation Wonders. Its as if the scene would have served is purpose and no longer of any use. The leader of the OSCE? Justice by imagination or premeditated positioning on Walkers part.
44 posted on 01/23/2004 3:57:53 PM PST by Wraith
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To: Hoplite
Who died at Racek? What are the names again? Post them please.
45 posted on 01/23/2004 8:47:05 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
What for?

If you're too lazy to find them yourself, even when you know where to look, the possibility of your doing anything useful with the information once you have it isn't too good, is it.

46 posted on 01/24/2004 8:32:35 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; Burkeman1
You can't post names that do not exist.
47 posted on 01/25/2004 9:52:21 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
True.

But the names do exist, and what's more, you've been told where to find them - you're just playing stupid again.

(A daytime Emmy worthy performance, were it not for the fact that you're just being yourself).

48 posted on 01/25/2004 10:51:14 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; Burkeman1; Destro; joan; DTA
There are names, but they are not easily found. You have to dig deep to find them, and there is good reason for that. Much of “indictment” does not make any sense.

According to “witnesses” of alleged massacre “Yugoslav Government War Crimes in Racak”
Source (HRW): http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/kosovo98/racak.shtml

Ten households of the Beqa family live in the part of Racak called Upper Mahalla on the edge of the village. According to one member of the family, whose son and husband were both killed, at around 7:00 a.m. thirty members of the Beqa family tried to run toward the nearby forest when they heard the police. She told Human Rights Watch that more then forty policemen wearing blue uniforms and without masks began shooting at them from a distance of twenty meters from the top of the hill.

More “then forty policemen” armed with automatic weapons “without masks began shooting at them from a distance of twenty meters”, and result -- only 3 dead and 2 wounded!!! Incredible luck, I guess.
Second, only alleged victim old 22 years is SHABANI, Bajrush; note that he is not Beqa he is Shabani.
Source (“indictment”):http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/mil-ii990524e.htm

Also note, there is mention only of BEQIRI “victims” in the “indictment”, there are no Beqa on that list.
According to the “indictment”,
MEHMETI, Bajram Male
MEHMETI, Hanumshah Female
are victims. Allegedly they are villagers living in Racak, everybody should know them but there is no mention of age. Or any other data! No address, no ID, no description – nothing, nada, zero! And they are not only ones. For 24 names!!!! out of 45 they are not able to tell age (at least approximately) for fellow villagers.

Take for example this:
HRW: Searching for Weapons and the Killing of Nazmi Ymeri (76)
“indictment” ZYMERI, Njazi Male (mo age)
HRW: Mufail Hajrizi
“indictment” - HAJRIZI, Myfail

But let us not dwell on such details - names and positive ID.
What really amazes me is Serb incompetence! Their policeman and soldiers are really bungling and inept!
HRW: Two or three policeman beat them with wooden sticks. One was kicking them in the face with his boots. The others were just watching. It was terrible. The men were screaming, and their heads were covered with blood. A policeman locked me in the cellar with the women, but I could hear screaming for the next half an hour.
They are beating people “with wooden sticks” for half an hour and they are still able to scream!! Amazing toughness. It is strange and gets stranger!
HRW: One bullet crossed through his pocket, and another one is still in his belt.

And so on, and so forth.

HRW: Some time around 1:00 p.m. the police led the twenty-three men out of Osmani's yard.
“indictment” - A group of approximately 25 men attempted to hide in a building, but were discovered by the Serb police.

HRW: His throat and half his face had been cut by a knife. On the top of his head was a wooden stick with some paper.
Or this
Journalists at the scene early on January 16 told Human Rights Watch that many of these twenty-three men also had signs of torture, such as missing finger nails.

According to so-called “indictment”.
In one such incident, on 15 January 1999, 45 unarmed Kosovo Albanians were murdered in the village of Racak in the municipality of Stimlje/Shtime.

No mention of this torture in “indictment”. “unarmed”, but wait according to witnesses:
HRW: I heard the police ask them [the men] where is the headquarters of our army [the KLA], and they answered where it was.

So, Racak really was KLA military stronghold, terrorist base, second Srebrenica. Which, according to HRW, means:

All of them (“victims”) were wearing rubber boots typical of Kosovo farmers rather than military footwear.

But from Ranta’s testimony we learn following:
Milosevic::
But in Dunjic's report, for example, it says these military boots

13 on 23 persons. As you can see, they were not able to take these boots off

14 because had they removed the footwear because of religious custom, they

15 would have removed the footwear of all the persons. But they removed only

16 the footwear of those wearing military boots. They were unable to take

17 off the underwear showing their military status.

and much, much more
9 Q. Mrs. Ranta, on all these photographs here, you have people wearing

10 military boots. Here, have a look at them. And in the report of

11 Professor Dunjic and other professors, expert witnesses, it says that they

12 even have markings, a "O" signifying that they were made in Germany. And

13 here, have a look at these photographs. There you can see the military

14 boots.
Source: http://www.un.org/icty/transe54/030312ED.htm


Conclusion: So-called Hague tribunal's indictment is not a serious legal document supported by probative evidence.

49 posted on 01/26/2004 5:31:43 PM PST by moroz (Genesis 49:16-18)
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To: moroz
ut they are not easily found

The low expectations started at that point and were completely fulfilled when you quoted Milosevic's attempt to try to run the 'Military footwear' BS past Ranta during his cross examination as if it were, how would you put it - 'probative' evidence.

Try it again, but with some intellectual honesty this time, Ok?

50 posted on 01/26/2004 6:26:37 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
I think the Serbs themselves disagree with your description of Milosevic's defense:

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8277274%255E1702,00.html

I guess we haven't pumped in 75 to 100 million dollars (in a nation of under 10 million) to "opposition" figures lately like we did in 1999 (about the same time we "conservatives" were complaining about foreign money in our campaigns). I guess they are too busy killing each other.
51 posted on 01/26/2004 6:45:43 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: moroz
The indictment was written without evidence by Nancy Patterson. Later shreds of data were spliced in to resemble legal document. The problem ICTY encountered were HRW transparent that were used as "evidence". That's why there are no approximate ages and positive I.D.

THis is entrapment, not indictment.

If Nancy Patterson wrote Indictment without evidence in any court in U.S.A. she would probably lose licence to practice law.

No wonder Ms. Patterson faded into obscurity after her stint as prosecutor in ICTY.

She ought to be disbarred.

52 posted on 01/26/2004 6:49:11 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: Hoplite
But as you are a sincere "interventionist" I thought you might find this article interesting if still tragic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065745/posts

53 posted on 01/26/2004 6:50:27 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
Marion Barry was re-elected as well.

Guess all that talk about him smoking crack was just the MAN trying to victimize him.

I really don't know where you're going with the Tibet thing.

54 posted on 01/26/2004 7:22:43 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Not going anywhere- just thought you would like the article and find it interesting. LOL on the Marion Barry thing. And I can go one better- Mayor Curley from Boston was also elected from prison.
55 posted on 01/26/2004 7:29:53 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
Great, Barry and Curley - what was the point of your post about Milosevic being re-elected then?
56 posted on 01/26/2004 7:46:20 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Neither had an opposition being pumped full of foreign money.
57 posted on 01/26/2004 7:51:52 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
Neither had stolen elections in the past either.

Strike three, and Slobo was out, thanks in part to the election monitoring system our funds helped emplace.

58 posted on 01/26/2004 7:57:42 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Wrong- Curley had stolen elections (The Rascal King). As did Gore most likely as well in the popular vote at least but the Bush admin was to chicken poop to say so as it would bring up some very unPC issues- so they ran to the USSC like cowards.

It looks like the people who view the Slobo trial on TV daily- namely the Serbs- disagree with you. The same people who ousted him in a "popular" revolution in 1999 (with the aid of multi millions from us and the backing of gangsters- but shhhhh!)

You are indeed a true believer. God bless you.
59 posted on 01/26/2004 8:06:15 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
You've taken the Talking Head's "stop making sense" advice too close to heart.

Let's not waste any more of each other's time.

60 posted on 01/26/2004 8:41:55 PM PST by Hoplite
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