So you are saying that the Catholic, being the original church, is the only source of authority for any church until Christs' return. Since every other church broke away and the Pope holds all the authority. They have none. Right?
No authority to heal in his name, no authority to cast out demons, no authority to perform miracles in his name. No authority at all. Certainly no authority to bring someone to Christ to be saved. And yet it happens daily. How can this be? All fraud? all Satan?
Can there be no other authority than the Pope? What do you do if he is corrupt? After all he is only human and with an unimaginable power. In 2000 years there have been no corrupt Popes? Not one? If the Pope be corrupt, then what authority does anyone have?
I understand Catholicism much better now. This was the piece I was missing! Thank you!!
I can see history through their eyes a little clearer now.
I don't agree with it, but I understand it.
Over and over in the Bible it states that GOD, his word, The Holy Spirit and Jesus are the only real authorities for his people.
Without any authority you will be lost. Who's authority is the question? God's, the Pope's, your own, another human? none?
Jesus is more than a Rabbi or even a Prophet, he is the son of God. He is not a person who left and is coming back he is here, today, alive in the Holy Spirit. Teaching his followers. Leading his church of believiers.
But lacking the Authority of the original church, you tend to be like a chicken running around without a head looking for answers in everything but the right place.
This would be true except for the Holy Spirit. He is the one who shows us who Christ really is because they are one in the same.
I noticed that you haven't mentioned him much. Without the Holy Spirit in your church, you might as well be doing a raindance. The Holy Spirit is what drove the diciples out of Pentecost and into a lost world. The Holy Spirit is what drives the Church.
John 16:13-15 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not be presenting his own ideas; he will be telling you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. He will bring me glory by revealing to you whatever he receives from me. All that the Father has is mine; this is what I mean when I say that the Spirit will reveal to you whatever he receives from me.
I'm sure from the outside you don't see what I see or hear what I hear but I know God's spirit when it is present. The Pope has no authority over him. He is a part of God and is available to everyone who seeks him. You just have to be prepared to recieve him. If the Holy Spirit is not leading you and your church, you will most certianly be lost.
That is the secret. If I were not in a church led by the Holy Spirit, I would have to do something. Either reform the church and bring them back into repentance or leave.
This is the problem the patrons of the Episcopal church are facing now. It is the problem Martin Luther faced. I have seen it several times. I have seen it go both ways. Not on such a grand scale as this, but the same situation. A sad situation any way you look at it.
Without the Holy Spirit, you can do nothing. I am not a Humanist. I don't see God in human terms just with a human heart.