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"Why I am Leaving the Episcopal Church" a priest's explanation
The Gwinnett (GA) Citizen (scanned)
| January 20, 2004
| the Rev, Dr, Foley Beach
Posted on 01/20/2004 6:27:02 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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Popular Priest leaves Episcopal Church
As national Episcopal denomination splinters
By Betty Camp
MONROE - The Reverend Doctor Foley Beach of St. Alban's Episcopal Church in Monroe, GA., one of the leaders of the traditional and conservative faction in the Episcopal Church, has announced that he will leave the Episcopal Church as of February 1, 2004. Dr. Beach has garnered a lot of community support from Gwinnett, Walton, Clark, Newton, Oconee, and Rockdale Counties and is forming a new Community Church that will have both a contemporary and a traditional Anglican service. The first services of the new church will be held in Walton County at Loganville Middle School on Sunday, February 8 at 9:00a.m. (traditional) and 11:00a.m. (Contemporary). Future plans are underway for a building is be located centrally for Walton and Gwinnett Counties.
The rift among the conservatives and the liberals in the Episcopal Church in America is careening down the course to its most devastating split in its history. About 90 percent of its Mother Church, the Anglican Church world wide, has strongly denounced the American Episcopal Church's arrogance and tolerance of what it considers sin going unchecked in the Church. The Primates of the Anglican Church (Archbishops of Anglican Provinces all over the world) have spoken very strongly against allowing a change in Church doctrine and Biblical Interpretation. Many Episcopal Dioceses in America are conservative and are struggling with the new Liberal direction the church has taken. A large group is considering trying to re-align with the Anglican Communion or with other conservative Dioceses.
To: Leroy S. Mort
you aren't alone. i am/was a methodist untill the church strayed so far from the faith in knew it may as well be wiccan.
when the reverends started making political statements of the anti gun bent, that right and wrong were objective to each individual, and any number of politically correct concessions to outsiders, it was simply over the line.
frankly ice found a greater freedom as a christian separate from the church. my faith has strengthened.
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posted on
01/20/2004 6:40:48 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(.50 cal border fence)
To: Leroy S. Mort
Isn't the action of the majority of bishops evidence of the loss of the apostolic succession in the ECUSA? The teaching authority lost at the Henry VIII's apostasy and Elizabeth I's heresies has finally been made irrevocably evident, don't you think?
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posted on
01/20/2004 6:46:16 PM PST
by
TheGeezer
To: cripplecreek
Just as a clarification, I'm not Rev. Beach, but my 84 year old Mom is planning to join his new congregation.
To: TheGeezer
No.
To: Leroy S. Mort
Just curious: how far will liberal ECUSA bishops have to go until it becomes evident that a single authority - e.g., papal - inherited from St. Peter and his successors - is necessary for true preservation from error?
Regards.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:11:19 PM PST
by
TheGeezer
To: ahadams2
FYI
To: Unam Sanctam; ahadams2; Eala; Grampa Dave; AnAmericanMother; N. Theknow; Ray'sBeth; ...
Thanks to U.S. for the ping Ping.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:19:44 PM PST
by
ahadams2
(Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
To: TheGeezer
Ahhh..I thought that's where you were heading, Sorry, but I'm not interested in playing.
God Bless....
To: Leroy S. Mort
I've spoken with Rev. Beach.
He is an extremely kind and very faithful man.
I am sorry that his new church will be over an hour from our house.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:23:41 PM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
To: TheGeezer; Leroy S. Mort
I'm not Leroy, but since you asked "evident that a single authority - e.g., papal - inherited from St. Peter and his successors - is necessary for true preservation from error?"
er, well the Anglican Communion exists because of abuses of papal authority in establishing errors... Besides remember that the episcopal church not only does NOT accurately reflect Anglican theology, but also has been largely cut off from the rest of the Anglican Communion as more and more Provinces (that's what we call our geographic area defined portions of the Anglican Communion) have been and are continuing to distance themselves, even at significant cost to themselves.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:24:03 PM PST
by
ahadams2
(Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
To: Leroy S. Mort
Thanks for taking the trouble to post this. This man sounds very sad, and I don't blame him. He is doing the right thing though, and that is most important. Godspeed to him in his new ventures.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:24:28 PM PST
by
jocon307
( The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
To: missyme; AAABEST
Ping.
Very sad state of affairs for all.
The Episcopal Churches in Lawrence(although there is a large/vocal gay community in Lawrence) have both sided with the conservative side of the break. For which I am truely thankful.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:26:22 PM PST
by
cavtrooper21
(Coffee, the elixir of life..or something resembling life.)
To: Leroy S. Mort
Good for your mom! Rev. Dr. Beach is a theological heavy hitter who is also a great preacher, or so I've heard anyway...never met the guy personally, but he's got a rep that just wont quit.
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:27:40 PM PST
by
ahadams2
(Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
To: TheGeezer
"Isn't the action of the majority of bishops evidence of the loss of the apostolic succession in the ECUSA? The teaching authority lost at the Henry VIII's apostasy and Elizabeth I's heresies has finally been made irrevocably evident, don't you think?"
Well, speaking from the point of view of a former Anglican and now for several years a convert to Catholicism, I don't agree and find your statement unduly simplistic, highly uncharitable and definitely not in keeping with the respect which His Holiness John Paul II extends to those within the Episcopal Communion whom he rightly refers to as "our separated brethren".
There was plenty of right and wrong on both sides at the time of the reformation. Just as today, countless lawsuits certainly attest to grave problems related to homosexuality hardly being the exclusive province of the Episcopalians!
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posted on
01/20/2004 7:35:08 PM PST
by
GMMAC
( lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
To: TheGeezer
***a single authority - e.g., papal - inherited from St. Peter and his successors - is necessary for true preservation from error?***
Good question, but consider this...
Why did the Jewish Christian church in Jerusalem disappear, (the one James headed as alluded to in Acts 15, Gal.1&2 and Eusebius)?
The HQ of the Church was in Jerusalem. But that changed. Probably for prophetic reasons (Jerusalem was to be destroyed), the Holy Spirit ended that geographic work and started a new thing (in Antioch and Alexandria).
The point is - a geographic church tradition can end, it may fade out into apathetic formalism or it may drift into error. The Lord may then decide to cut that church (used in the wide geographic sense) off. An example of Jesus threatening this very thing is in Rev 2: 4-6.
Paul also warns that such a thing can happen in Rom. 11:17-24
From my point of view, it is a mistake is to assume that one can be preserved from error by holding allegiance to a bishop of a specific geographic location (bishop of Rome). As we have seen above, there were churches which were threatened with being "cut off" or having their candle removed from the heavenly menorah.
Jesus was speaking to a church. Paul was speaking to a church (Rome in it's infancy) So the Roman church was warned of the danger of being cut off. They wouldn't be warned of the danger of something if it was an impossibility.
And as a side point. The ECUSA is apostacising because they have rejected the authority of the Bible.
PS What is the RC position on the apostolic status of the Eastern Orthodox church?
To: PetroniusMaximus
Yes! Much agreed with your assesment. It seems to me that the Holy Spirit has come full circle (literally) from Jerusalem 2000 years ago to China today. I don't think our light is out yet, but the future of the church definately lies in the East, as far as I can tell.
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posted on
01/20/2004 8:28:47 PM PST
by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
To: TheGeezer
Indeed.
The spirit of the Antichrist is walking amidst the ruins of the altars and sanctuaries of "mainstream" denominations (Episcopalian and Catholic alike). One wonders if the "abomination of desolation" can be that far away... With the smoke of Satan pouring in, sincere Christians now must struggle with their consciences in the unfolding drama.
To: PetroniusMaximus; GMMAC
my appologies for the return shot I took at the geezer...it was meant only to give him a statement to contemplate that was at least as over the top as his own...
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posted on
01/20/2004 8:42:10 PM PST
by
ahadams2
(Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
To: bethelgrad
Doesn't it seem like the nexus of vital faith has moved something like...
Jerusalem > Antioch/Alexandria > Rome > Germany > England > America > China/Africa...
I may have left out some...
Interesting also to note the forceful nature by which the Holy Spirit directed Paul to the West (Acts 16) - effectivley closing the door on the East for a while...
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