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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: Godebert
  1. Yes!

  2. Yes!

  3. Yes!

  4. No. ...

    Mister Bush said that he thought the legislation was un-Constitutional while running for office. In office, with different information and different necessities, priorities and balances of political forces to be made, it is most likely likely he became convinced that the Constitutionality questions were best settled by the Supreme Court, that allowing to USSCT to settle such in-their-time contentious issues was the established practise.

    It was a horrible decision to have made -- while such passing-the-buck is the established modern executive practise, a man the caliber of George W. Bush is well expected to be able to stand on his own two feet and NOT just be part of the neep tide of the times. For the first hundred and fifty years or so Presidents had stood up for the Constitution, not needing the Nanny's okay. Why did Dubya regress on this issue, and join that slacker modern practise of executives passing the buck?

    Even if the law were G-d-forbid, truly "Constitutional" its terms are so arcane, its stricture so perverse to freedom, that to protect the public and Liberty a more duty-aware Chief Executive would have refused to sign it.


1,941 posted on 01/25/2004 5:53:03 AM PST by bvw
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To: RiflemanSharpe
I never have for voted for the lesser of two evils ~ I vote for GWB becuase he is the best man for the job.

I said I liked Howard Phillips, I also like my neighbor ~ neither one would be a good president.
1,942 posted on 01/25/2004 8:08:48 AM PST by blackie
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To: Wolfstar
read later
1,943 posted on 01/25/2004 8:13:26 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: zook
"More than ever, if Bush loses, America loses."

You got it Zook ~ Big Time!

1,944 posted on 01/25/2004 8:16:59 AM PST by blackie
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To: RightWinger
He gets money and votes from my wife and I ~ Go GWB!
1,945 posted on 01/25/2004 8:18:00 AM PST by blackie
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To: blackie
I never have for voted for the lesser of two evils ~ I vote for GWB becuase he is the best man for the job.

I said I liked Howard Phillips, I also like my neighbor ~ neither one would be a good president.

You are intitled to your opinion, but I no longer think that GWB is the best man for the job. I think he has moved to far to the left and is spending way to much. This is why I am looking real hard a the Constitution Party.
1,946 posted on 01/25/2004 8:21:02 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: George W. Bush
Dismissed?

What this means is simply this.I no longer wish to waste my time with an irrational,immature paranoid.Go away,poltroon and look for those mexicans in your pantry.

1,947 posted on 01/25/2004 8:44:34 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
Heh-heh. Methinks you've been looking around and see that you're in a small minority at FR supporting the open-borders nuttiness BushCo announced.

Notice his drop in the polls after SOTU?

Maybe you don't get the message but even Rove isn't dumb enough to ignore that response.
1,948 posted on 01/25/2004 9:58:20 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Maybe you have not gotten the message that I think you're a one note jackass and I wish to have nothing further to do with a slobbering imbecile,which, in my opinion,you are working hard to convince me that you are.

I'd wager that the poll drops have a lot more to do with the focusing on the Dems' NH adventures than anything else.It happens in every election cycle, or did you fail history,too? Most of the public does not see a Mexican under every bed as you appear to do.

As stated, I find you incapable of rational discourse and prefer that you go join the rest of the unappeasable paranoids in your little corner of your perfect world. Does this help clear it up for you at all or did you want to apply for that opening I have for a lawn ornament,too?

1,949 posted on 01/25/2004 10:07:03 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Sabertooth; Mo1; sinkspur; Congressman Billybob
"Hypothetically, however, he could issue a mass pardon to Illegals."

Even giving a Presidential pardon isn't the same thing legally as granting citizenship.

I don't think there is any way for Bush to EO handing out citizenship or a green/blue card.

It circumvents Congress and I think it would be illegal and struck down by the courts.

And the Political ramifications would of course be disastrous on par or even worse than the Clinton Pardon scandals only this time the Liberal Media would go out of it's way to tar and feather Bush.

Congressman BillyBob - Is there any way legally for Bush to Executive Order enactment of his Amnesty plan without getting a Green Light from Congress?
1,950 posted on 01/25/2004 11:28:58 AM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: Sabertooth; Mo1; sinkspur; Congressman Billybob
And the media would be right to tar and feather Bush if he tried to force Amnesty with an EO.
1,951 posted on 01/25/2004 11:39:33 AM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: Pubbie
Thanks for your question about Executive Orders. After the disaster of Billyjeff Clinton, it is hard to say where the absolute limit on EO's is. I recall with great disgust the comment of that sleazoid lawyer, Paul Begala, on that subject, "Stroke of a pen, law of the land, Kinda neat."

If President Bush wanted to establish his immigration plan by EOs, large chunks of it could be shoved through that way. However, nothing in Bush's background suggests that he would do such a thing, in defiance of Congress.

Contrast this situation with the appointment of judges. Bush let the minority of Democrats in the Senate hold up his judicial appointments, before he finally used a specific power given to the President by the Constitution, and put one judge, Pickering, on the bench by recess appointment.

In short, the idea that Bush would use an EO to establish his immigration plan, rather than having it work its way through Congress and be changed in ways Congress wants, is a red herring. It is a constitutional will-of-the-wist, born of the Clinton Administration, not this one.

IMHO.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread).

1,952 posted on 01/25/2004 12:00:54 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: gatorbait
Does this help clear it up for you at all or did you want to apply for that opening I have for a lawn ornament,too?

I see. So you like to think of the illegal alien workforce as a bunch of 'lawn ornaments'. Keep the border open for your cheap 'lawn ornaments'. Is that right?

Lovely.
1,953 posted on 01/25/2004 12:01:51 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks BillyBob!
1,954 posted on 01/25/2004 12:03:33 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: George W. Bush
So you like to think of the illegal alien workforce as a bunch of 'lawn ornaments'.

No, I don't think that at all.I think you are so dense, you'd make a great lead lawn ornament. Lovelier. Now, go away, stalker.

1,955 posted on 01/25/2004 12:03:56 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Howlin
Howlin, do you have any information about Bush pushing through an Illegal Alien Amnesty through an Executive order?
1,956 posted on 01/25/2004 12:18:36 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: gatorbait
No, I don't think that at all.

But you just called them all a bunch of 'lawn ornaments', cheap labor for your enjoyment. You invited me to join them and be one of your 'lawn ornaments'. Now you say you "don't think" what you actually wrote less than an hour ago, an opinion you've expressed consistently on this thread.
1,957 posted on 01/25/2004 12:22:17 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Howlin
Apparently Zipporah claimed that a Senate Aid told him that Bush would Executive Order to impliment his Amnesty plan.
1,958 posted on 01/25/2004 12:27:44 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
I got that you don't like GWB ~ I like him more each year!

Hoover was president when I was born and GWB is one of three best presidents during my life time!

Before he's finsihed in '08, he'll probably go down in history as the best!
1,959 posted on 01/25/2004 12:36:13 PM PST by blackie
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To: Wolfstar
Thank you. It's about time someone pointed these things out.
1,960 posted on 01/25/2004 12:39:56 PM PST by Sockdologer (Yeeeagh!)
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