The Other White Flight: Can Democrats ever regain the support of Southern whites?(BARF ALERT)

Charlotte Creative Loafing ^ | January 21-27, 2004 | Kevin Griffis

[WOSG]

I am a Conservative Yankee who now lives in the South. I don't make a lot of money, but my family doesn't go hungry. We don't vote on who is going to give us "free money" (never mind that no money is free) instead we vote on who is going to uphold the moral standards of this nation.

Well said. This author is clearly a liberal and has not a clue as to that concept of citizenship, nor even the concept of morality. Apparently non-college-educated hard-working low-income people have a better grasp of it than even this journalist.

I've managed to maintain the same political philosophy from studenthood to being well-off and middle-aged, because being conservative is not about my selfish interests or anyones individual interests, but what is the best set of principles to organize society as a whole so ALL of us can live in a free and civil society. Govt should be about protecting our society and its key institutions (like marriage and family!) and protecting rights of individuals to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It should not be about handouts and govt redistribution. This journalist wrongly thinks people should be emotion ("angry") that some have more and some have less. But that is ENVY, a sin.

Of course, there are people who vote for the "what can you, Big Daddy Govt, do for *me*?" ... reminds me of that pony-tail guy from the 1992 debate.

[WOSG]

Dittos on the stock market point.

And also his point has been *erased* by the 40% climb in the markets since last March!!!

[spodefly]

I may be a poor southern white, but I am smart enough not to try to get any political insights from "Creative Loafing".

If I wanted to find a dildo store or a massage parlor, CL is fine. But politically, they are all Maoist/Marxist, God-hating, gay-loving, progressive elitists. Their solution to everything, especially in handing all us dumb white southerners, is another big-government program, centrally administered by someone who thinks they are smarter than us.

Elitist pricks like this "writer" and the rest of the CL staff are what represent Democrats to me. And that is why I no longer vote democrat.

[madprof98]

Last year, in honor of the Roe v. Wade anniversary, Kevin Griffis penned a long, long, long piece in the Atlanta Creative Loafing to trash pro-lifers and celebrate the joys of baby-killing. This is one bad fella.

[SouthernFreebird]

OMG.... I'm pretty sure he managed to put every Southern stereotype in that one article...*gag* ...did you see the part where us ignernt 'little women' are just gonna vote for who our husbands vote for...not a working brain cell in our purty little heads...what a typical insulting article about Southerners. Go figure

[madprof98]

I should have checked before my last post. It seems Griffis has also gotten his piece into the Atlanta incarnation of Creative Loafing. I didn't know that because--even though CL is free and widely available--I hadn't bothered to pick up this week's edition from one of the boxes scattered around town. Of course, at this time of year, some of those boxes empty out quickly because a lot of homeless people grab the CLs and stuff them inbetween their blankets to keep warm.

[blam]

"The answers were both depressingly facile, filled with the parroted lingo of the rightwing media echo chamber."

No bias here.

The old southern Democrats are dead or are dying...

[alloysteel]

Can Democrats ever regain the support of Southern whites?

At this point, can Democrats even be sure of holding the loyalty of an overwhelming majority of the Americans of African descent much longer?

The Democrats have trouble mustering any kind of a coalition to challenge the rise in general prosperity, all their rhetoric to the contrary. When there is talk of phasing out a reduction in tax rates, more and more people realize this is directly a pay reduction from what they now are receiving. Things have only recently gotten easier, why vote to return to hardship?

[BykrBayb]

Well, now, I'm not fer shure, but I thank that Yankee just insulted me. (And don't try tellin' me he ain't know Yankee. He dang shure is, with talk like that.) Is he tryna say thit I'm to dumb ta vote? Mayhap he don't meen me, seeins how I'm livin' up north rite now. But that's jist tempary. If'n I'da been in that Walmart when he come in spewin' his trash, I'da whupped up on his communist butt and sent him flyin' out inta the parkin' lot, cryin' fer his mama. The onliest reason he didn't see no outrage, like he said, is cuz Southerners are mostly too polite. But I been livin' up here in New Jersey, crowded in with folks like him long nuff to know that manners don't work on his kind. You got to stomp 'em in the mud like the reptiles they is.

[WVNan]

That's what I was thinking. My kids paid their own way by working, getting grants and loans. A college education paid for my parents is not as appreciated by the child as one they work for themselves. Self-esteem you know.

[WVNan]

This writer is a condescending idiot. He doesn't come near being as wise as the people he's obviously disrespecting. The obvious question in response to this garbage is: If the South is so poor and the people are so dumb, why is this after 40 years of Democrat social engineeering? Hummmmm? If the Democrats can do soooo much for these poor people, why haven't they?

[The Black Knight]

I should have checked before my last post. It seems Griffis has also gotten his piece into the Atlanta incarnation of Creative Loafing. I didn't know that because--even though CL is free and widely available--I hadn't bothered to pick up this week's edition from one of the boxes scattered around town.

Yeah, I usually don't read it either. But I just got outta class, and was gonna burn some time. I thought I'd get the typical liberal crap, but this just took the cake. That's why I put it on here in the first place. Made by blood boil, and I'm USED to this crap.

[Timesink]

Articles like this one, which are based entirely on anecdotes, are always, always, ALWAYS complete failures at "proving" whatever point it is that the author is attempting to get across. I could go visit the exact same towns this guy did, hang out in the exact same Wal-Mart, etc, and come away with an article making it "crystal clear" that the Hick South is a Democratic stranglehold. All you have to do is be willing to invest the time to meet enough people who fit the stereotype that you have decided in advance that you wish to highlight.

[Morgan's Raider]

Never mind, of course, that it was the Democrat Clinton who signed the welfare-to-work legislation...

Kicking and screaming, right before an election, with some vague promise to "fix it" after he was re-elected along with the 'rats newly reclaimed House and Senate.

[GOPcapitalist]

It's always amusing to watch elitist northeastern transplants try to comprehend the south. They never have been able to and likely never will. This guy is no different, which is why his article is so terrible and so wrong.

The average leftist yankee know-it-all thinks of us as dumb racist hicks who hang out in wal-mart parking lots and go to klan rallies for fun. They think we're too stupid to know what's best for us (i.e. our economic interests) and believe we need to be shown the way...by them of course. And they cannot for the life of them figure out why we don't eat up their welfare handout programs that they use to buy voters in every other region of the country. Every last one of them is smug, arrogant, snobbish, nosey, and, above all, extremely prone to inserting himself into other people's business and attempting to direct their lives. They are truly the most wretchid and arrogant scoundrels on the face of this earth and every day that any honest, decent and hard working individual has to spend encountering them is a curse.

Two years ago I drove to Louisiana as a volunteer for the Terrell campaign to oust Mary Landrieu. Landrieu and her DNC backers had recruited and hired workers straight out of the womens studies departments of every left wing northeaster college campus they could get to and bussed em down to counter us. They were some truly hideous beasts: spiked purple haircut black makeup overweight tank top wearing armpit hair showing pierced lip lesbian vegan goth abortionist yankee banshees. Worst of all, every last one of em though she was on a modern day "freedom ride" to the south to "liberate" the economically oppressed and ignorant backwoods poor people from us evil demagogue racist corporatist republicans. They were fun to taunt though, so all was not lost.

[Criminal Number 18F]

Man... well done, Sir Knight. that is definitely the fisking of the day. And this schmuck deserved it.

I know Winter Haven and Lakeland really well; I have friends who live there. They got hosed worse than many others by the economic downturn and the reduction in travel in the first year of the war. (The Cypress Gardens resort, which employed hundreds, went paws up, for one thing).

But this guy who wrote this is simply priceless. You can almost feel him seething, Don't these inbred hayseeds know that we know better what's good for them... they should give up their guns, give their kids to Michael Jackson, celebrate diversity, perversity and buggery, and just generally shut the heck up and vote for us!

And then he's actually surprized that they don't want to vote for his wonderful party. Glory.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[stainlessbanner]

mebbe the author should have spent less time at the Tiger Tale and more time writing this piece.