Why You Should Support Bush's Immigration Proposal

GOPUSA ^ | 01.23.04 | J. Max Wilson

[McGavin999]

It will free up the police and force the cities to change their policies. You see, there will no longer be a case of "the poor workers just trying to make a living". If you don't have a blue card, you are illegal and there will be no defense. It will shut up the weeping humanitarian groups that aid and abet this horrid situation.

To my mind, they have blood on their hands but you'll never get them to acknowledge it. It will also raise the people's awareness of what is going on, and they just might go out and start replacing city councils who break the new law since it's obviously more than fair. No more guilt trips that will shut up the average citizen.

[spunkets]

" The question we have to ask is if the government couldn't/wouldn't enforce immigration law after the 1985 amnesty, is anyone gullible enough to believe it will be enforced if the current proposal is enacted?

The idea of Bush's proposal is to be able to differentiate between hard workers and criminals. Amnesty doesn't do that. This proposal calls for the guest workers stay to be limited and that they have a definite verifiable job, else they're out. It makes it easier on folks that love their maid to pallate the coming deportations.

[Zipporah]

The whole thing is 'odd' in my estimation. Odd that Bush would push a proposal that would in fact circumvent the H-1B visa .. odd that Bush would push a proposal that the vast majority of Americans is against... odd that Bush would push a proposal that has shown elsewhere that rather than decrease illegal immigration will increase it.. odd that Bush would push this proposal at a time that we are in danger of terrorist attack leave our Border Patrol unfunded and unsupported... odd that Bush would push a proposal that would flood our country with a group of people that are uneducated in their own language much less English which will overburden schools with the task of educating their children at a tremendous cost.. I will stop there but the list could go on and on...

[FSPress]

Round each and every one of them up and drop em off south of the river. What part of deport don't you understand.

[skeeter]

I was raised here in Arizona, I love the hispanic people, but I want them to be LEGAL.

THe fact that you feel you have to qualify your statement is a testament to why we're losing this battle - ethnicity has nothing to do with it.

All I want is a country where the rule of law, not men, is paramount.

There are worker programs in effect now. We don't need a new one. Bush needs to enforce the law.

[Zipporah]

"There are worker programs in effect now. We don't need a new one. Bush needs to enforce the law.".. absolutely~ the H-1B visa program is in force now.. with limits.. this proposal will remove all limitations and render the H-1B null and void.

[spunkets]

"if you break immigration laws, what are you? A hero?"

I don't wear a seatbelt. That doesn't make me a hero. It just means I don't give a damn about the law, because it's an affront to Freedom. I personally am not bothered by hard working folks regardless. Bush's proposal allows for the construction of a decent law, that protects Freedom and the hard working a chance to work.

[Beck_isright]

I did a "barf" ping alert...LOL

[Zipporah]

......" because it's an affront to Freedom".. and this is one of the many reasons I oppose Bush's proposal.

[Beck_isright]

Too bad the bizarro's are in charge now. Sigh.

[Beck_isright]

"Why not just deport those who shouldn't be here to begin with?"

Too logical and law abiding.

[Beck_isright]

"The 'toon panders to criminals, Bush doesn't."

Which word in the phrase "illegal alien" do you need help with?

[spunkets]

"It will shut up the weeping humanitarian groups that aid and abet this horrid situation."

They'll never shut up. If it's done right though, ordinary folks would see the large number of arrests and deportations as the right thing to do and see those groups as loony.

[Columbine]

Yes, it does and I don't like it any better in one usage than the other.

While we are after the feds we also need to check our local policies and raise some dust with those people too.

[supercat]

Odd that Bush would push a proposal that has shown elsewhere that rather than decrease illegal immigration will increase it.

I guess it depends what else Bush does. If Bush's proposal went through, it would become much easier for him to turn around and declare that illegal aliens who cannot demonstrate legal employment must be deported. After all, if someone really is here to work legally (paying taxes and all that) they should have no problem documenting their employment.

Perhaps I am being overly optimistic in thinking Bush might have something up his sleeve. I guess my thinking is that if he doesn't step up action against illegals who refuse to get 'blue cards', the illegal aliens would have no reason to seek them. So I would think there has to be a Part II; I just don't know what it is, and whether it will be a surprise jab at liberlas or one at conservatives.

[Endeavor]

Here's an interesting article: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=4991

[txdoda]

The 'toon panders to criminals, Bush doesn't.>>>>>>>>>

REALLY !! WHERE in 'the proposal' does GWB address the illegal EMPLOYERS, who are guilty of YEARS of TAX EVASION & filing fraudulent tax filings ?? Two of only SEVERAL federal laws these *employers* are breaking.

[Bernard Marx]

This proposal calls for the guest workers stay to be limited and that they have a definite verifiable job, else they're out

Yes. It's half of a workable program. The other half would involve making the commitments I've already mentioned as well as a serious effort to protect our borders from further waves of illegals. We also need substantial expansion of the Border Patrol and INS to separate guest workers from illegals who come here for welfare or crime. There must also be SEVERE penalties for employers who hire illegals and STRICT ENFORCEMENT of those rules.

We already have unenforced laws for many of these infractions, especially involving employers. What makes you believe the pie in the sky that we'll do better in the future? Why not start with enforcing the laws already on the books, and empower local police to enfore immigration law, not ignore it?

[strongbow]

"Bush's proposal is not a scheme to appeal to Hispanic voters. It is a well informed, strategic move....."

Blah, blah, blah blah...

One thing is factual in this statement, it will not appeal to Hispanic voters but will surely bring in 8-12 million more democratic socialists on the voting farm as sure as I am hunting a pecking here. What the hey, why not give socialist utopia a try, I'm sure we can make it work where the rest of civilization from the beggining of time has failed. Our leaders have surely evolved from the bacically flawed and self-serving man of the past.

[spunkets]

" Which word in the phrase "illegal alien" do you need help with?"

There are a lot of things that are illegal and are ignored. So what? The present law and situation doesn't work. Bush is proposing a guest worker plan to address the situation that would work.