Why You Should Support Bush's Immigration Proposal

GOPUSA ^ | 01.23.04 | J. Max Wilson

[skeeter]

I know and understand the situation in both places and in CA. CA and other States will lose a great number of them, because they are criminals, unemployed ect. and aren't particularly interested in changing.

But because GW hasn't told us how he intends to enforce the LAW where it involves those who aren't playing by the rules, you can understand why I'm skeptical, right?

THe feds aren't enforcing it now. Why should I believe the LAW will be enforced after GW's plan is enacted?

[spunkets]

"a lack of political will."

The lack of political will is, because the police state solution is an affront to Freedom and decency. Now do you expect me to believe all those calling for a police state action would not themselves be driven to seek better opportunities and resent the very action they are calling for?

[Beck_isright]

"I don't care HOW the GOP'ers spin this."

You should. If a 180 does not occur, a lot of true conservatives will sit 2004 out.

[txdoda]

The proposal allows for correction from this point on. Is that not worth something?>>>>>>>>

GEE, ya think we should offer this *same deal* to ALL AMERICAN criminals & tax evaders?? We could just make them *promise* not to do it again, then turm 'em LOOSE.

CORRECTION from now on ?? Kinda like a sort of AMNESTY, for the illegal employers ??

Then let's also REWARD the illegals by making them *legal*. (which is a PROVEN FACT that it only brings MILLIONS more, to wait for the NEXT REWARD)

[spunkets]

"GW hasn't told us how he intends to enforce the LAW"

The Bush feds seem to be quite good at enforcing the laws they enacted and others they support w/o reservations. This is a call for correction to remove the reservations.

[Beck_isright]

"The Bush feds seem to be quite good at enforcing the laws they enacted and others they support w/o reservations."

Why not enforce the laws they were already sworn to uphold? You know, that pesky part 8 of the U.S. Constitution? Or did Klintoon repeal that?

[Squantos]

FYI........Comments ??

[spunkets]

" GEE, ya think we should offer this *same deal* to ALL AMERICAN criminals & tax evaders?"

Nah, you're evading the fundamentals involved.

"Kinda like a sort of AMNESTY, for the illegal employers?"

Separate issue altogether. This proposal does nothing to render their actions passed, present, or future immune from prosecution. " Then let's also REWARD the illegals by making them *legal*."

THere's no reward for them. There is a reward for the country though to respect their work ethic.

"which is a PROVEN FACT that it only brings MILLIONS more

The proposal says, "MUST have demonstratable employment".

[William Terrell]

I sent a link to this thread to the GOPUSA boys. Suggested they read the comments.

[txdoda]

That's my point. How is offering illegals something they're not going to take anyway a problem?>>>>>>>

Yeah, let's create ANOTHER HUGE, INEPT, gov't agency (taxpayer funded) just in the *event* that some illegals & their illegal employers *wish* to sign up.

Thanks, but I much rather my TAXDOLLARS be spent on enforcing our existing laws.

[quidnunc]

Squantos wrote: FYI........Comments ??

I agree that the issue of immigration needs to be addressed because we can't keep on with this status quo.

Unless we want to become as sclerotic as Europe we will need immigrants who are willing to work and eventually to become assimilated.

But I'm not going to get excited until I see a bill on the floor of Congress.

[spunkets]

" Why not enforce the laws they were already sworn to uphold? You know, that pesky part 8 of the U.S. Constitution?"

The reason is, because the executive and Congress finds the present situation unworkable and Congress hasn't and will not authorize the funds for a police state crackdown.

[skeeter]

The Bush feds seem to be quite good at enforcing the laws they enacted and others they support w/o reservations. This is a call for correction to remove the reservations.

In 94 the people of California voted to remove the safety net for illegal immigrants. GW went on record otherwise.

I remain skeptical, & believe the issue is too critical to the health of our republic to leave to politicians who think they know better than the people.

[Beck_isright]

"I sent a link to this thread to the GOPUSA boys. Suggested they read the comments."

I doubt it. They are clueless. Rovianism is the rule of the day.

[AzJohn]

There is a lot of good stuff in this article. The relationship of illegal immigration to organized crime...the failure of sanctuary policies...the widespread lawbreaking by employers today...all of this right on in my opinion.

I disagree with him in one respect. He says that President Bush's proposal is worthy of our whole-hearted support. But I think it is too vague and lacking in details for that. This author is filling in the blanks with enforcement provisions of his liking; just as some critics of the President imagine that there will be no enforcement because the President did not specify any.

[raybbr]

They are criminals. By not wearing a seat belt you harm no one but yourself. Illegal aliens break law upon law and are a drain on our society.

[Beck_isright]

"The reason is, because the executive and Congress finds the present situation unworkable and Congress hasn't and will not authorize the funds for a police state crackdown."

Based solely on your point, then the IRS should be dissolved and the income tax repealed since the present situation is unworkable and close to 40 million people do not file. You can not apply the law selectively. Enforce them all or repeal them all.

[Beck_isright]

This is a 100% political move. W will never feel the impact. The average schmuck like you and I will be paying the bill long after W passes into history.

[spunkets]

"the health of our republic"

Depends on Freedom and Freedom can only be promoted and protected by doing the right thing. Bush has proposed an outline for doing just that and correcting the deficiencies. Folks will note it. It's up to Congress and it's advisors, that includes citizens, to create the plan and implement it.

[Squantos]

OK....nuff said ...I'm off to next issue !

Thanks !.......Stay Safe !