Why You Should Support Bush's Immigration Proposal

GOPUSA ^ | 01.23.04 | J. Max Wilson

[Zipporah]

""racist," "nativist," "bigot," "xenophobe," etc., every time any one questions one of their programs or ideas on the subject of race or ethnicity, for which they have no rational argument"

My son has a very good friend in Greece and in speaking to her yesterday, there is a new push for immigration in there. And interestingly, those who are pushing for immigration are using these same ploys to muzzle those in opposition. Greeks are very nationalistic (parodied in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding")and they will have a hard row to hoe to get the Greeks to stomach their plans.

[humblegunner]

I am still not convinced that the direction presented by President Bush is the best course...I think that whatever it is, it is an election year ploy/strategy

Exactly.
A first-term President has to aquiesce to certain things that a second term President does not. There may be aspects to this "amnesty" (which allows us to identify and track these illegals and which also encourages them to go the hell home) that we do not yet know about.. the power of Google notwithstanding.

I reserve judgement.

[GOP_1900AD]

The reason is so that the owner of my local gardening service can continue to hire illegals and will reward Bush with a vote in November. The GOP is pandering to the day labor hiring lobby. This is not whining just simply a statement of fact. What's more imporatant, Homeland Security or votes of small business owners who hire illegals? We'll soon know the answer.

[Flyer]

Bush's proposal is a brilliant move in a complex chess game.

This is the impression I got after hearing his proposal.

[Poohbah]

Katherine Harris' campaign called me Wednesday night. I replied that perhaps the illegals have more benefits than I do as an American and could perhaps share them with her campaign. The young man hung up on me.

Next time, tell them you'll hold your breath until you turn blue if you don't get your way. That'll make you sound a bit more mature.

[exnavy]

I think this is smoke and mirrors on the level of the dimocrats. I pray for our president daily, I don't know what road he is taking us down, but I don't like the looks of this neighborhood.

[prairiebreeze]

And bookmarking

[swarthyguy]

Here's my reasons for this proposal in addition to yours.

-Make underthetable money flow into SS via FICA payroll deductions.

-Unspoken and unmentioned, but a future privatisation of PEMEX.

[JOAT]

Are you saying common sense should be used? Gosh what the heck is wrong with you??

I guess I'm just not sophisticated enough to understand the complexities of this. I mean look at the first sentence:

Critics of President Bush's immigration reform proposal have…missed the subtle brilliance of his approach to a very complex problem.

I guess I'm just too simple to catch the subtle brilliance of enticing more throngs of illegal aliens to rush here on the expectation that they will be legalized.

[Lizavetta]

Conservatives seem ready to condemn the illegal immigrants who come seeking work and often advocate the harshest punishments for them (i.e. shooting them at the border) while at the same time barely hand-slapping the lawbreaking businesses and ignoring city sanctuary policies designed to undermine federal immigration law

WRONG. Politicians do the wimpy hand-slapping - conservative are ALL FOR fining the crap out of Tyson Chicken, the major beef producers and packers, and all the other who employ illegals.

Conservatives are worlds away more true to their principles than politicians who pretend to be conservatives.

[skeeter]

Until 1965, we had a very small illegal immigration problem. After 1965, we had a HUGE illegal immigration problem.

Alot of stuff happened in '65, so finding cause & effect might not be that simple.

I think something modeled on the old Bracero program is appropriate. But from what I've heard of it, what GW is proposing far exceeds that.

[Poohbah]

Make underthetable money flow into SS via FICA payroll deductions.

Also identifies the people paying under the table.

The "day labor lobby" won't like that one bit.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Sorry, this is not going to wash with the Republican base no matter what the "party line" may be!

You're right, but we can expect a lot of these applesauce stories to be coming out anyway.

What really bothers me is if Clinton had proposed the same deal, the very people defending it now like this writer would be screaming from the highest rooftops in opposition. And rightly so, it's a terrible idea.

[Beck_isright]

"Barf is right. I see no mention of the Atzlan revolutionaries in this piece. I called the RNC and told them I, as a Republican, feel that the party has "stabbed Americans in the back" with their support of this proposal."

And what was their reply?

[MissAmericanPie]

"Our oldest son just graduated last year and is working as a computer programmer... his job is in jeopardy of being "outsourced" to a third world hell hole where people subsist on slave wages, but hey it is America and according to the president foreigners are being given the jobs that "Americans do not want to do"."

You forgot the other con, "It is the duty and obligation of Americans to lift the boats of other nations". I have looked and I don't see that duty listed in the Constitution. I do see where we are to be protected from invaders of any type, peaceful or violent. They have played on the Christian American conscience and gullibility for decades much to their own harm. Now they have come for our standard of living, our blessings from God, our Constitutional Republic, and soon our Bill of Rights. It's time to send these scoundrels and snake oil salesmen packing.

[skeeter]

-Unspoken and unmentioned, but a future privatisation of PEMEX.

The heck with that, how about an outright hostile takeover?

So far I've heard of no concessions from Mexico which might encroach on their precious souveriegnty.

[Beck_isright]

"Next time, tell them you'll hold your breath until you turn blue if you don't get your way. That'll make you sound a bit more mature."

Ah yes, the reply I expect from a liberalbot.

[Poohbah]

Alot of stuff happened in '65, so finding cause & effect might not be that simple.

The big issue is that the Mexicans, by and large, came up for the season, by themselves, and headed back down to Mexico in the off-season.

After the guest worker program ended, each border crossing became a hazard. To minimize the level of risk, the now-illegal aliens crossed ONCE and stayed here. They also started bringing their families with them.

[Ohioan]

Greeks are very nationalistic . . .and they will have a hard row to hoe to get the Greeks to stomach their plans.

Yes but if you look at the tremendous success of the Fabian Socialist push for an undifferentiated humanity in the United States and Western Europe, Canada, etc.., you had better warn your Greek friends not to take this attack lightly. This is not really "Liberalism" we, and they, have to deal with; but a movement that relies on deception and the suppression of real debate, and has at all times relied on those tactics, with success that no one would have believed possible 90 years ago.

The multi-culturalists have no intellectual argument--none to speak of--but they have managed to intimidate two generations of Western men and women. I hold them in absolute intellectual contempt, but I do not take them lightly. How can any of us?

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[Beck_isright]

"I think this is smoke and mirrors on the level of the dimocrats. I pray for our president daily, I don't know what road he is taking us down, but I don't like the looks of this neighborhood."

This neighborhood is looking more and more like the one we thought we all voted ourselves out of, minus the philandering.