[skeeter]

There is some real grasping of straws going on to defend the indefensible. It's almost sad to witness the desperation.

I can empathize. I felt the same way in '86, but we all know what happened to those promises.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I felt the same way in '86, but we all know what happened to those promises.

Even in 1986 I was opposed to amnesty after living in Arizona, but it had some strong enforcement provisions attached to the bill so that's what got people to buy into it.

Instead of learning from its failure we're hearing the same, tired arguments with Bush's proposal. It's deja vu all over again.