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To: spunkets
There is a reward for the country though to respect their work ethic.

With over a third living off welfare --- it's hard to respect their work ethic. Also when you look at Mexico itself, there isn't much evidence of that work ethic doing much good. Some do work hard --- many don't --- but often that work ethic they have is kind of backward --- you can tell a Mexican to plow your field, he'll grab a shovel and get to work, you tell an American to plow your field, he'll ask where is the tractor. That doesn't mean the American doesn't have a work ethic --- he just wants to do a job efficiently.

260 posted on 01/24/2004 7:16:07 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
"over a third living off welfare"

The proposal calls for a fundamental change, the creation and implementation of a sorting mechanism and prohibition of State and local interferance with the plan. Welfare is not gainful employment.

" but the real problem is then the citizens of Mexico who want better lives will have to demand that of their own officials --- that is not what the ruling elites of Mexico want to do --- they don't want changes that would allow the majority to have a piece of that pie --- they like having all the wealth to themselves."

They are corrupt socialists that have no respect for Freedom at all. The US should do what it can to promote it there, but that's really a separate issue. The issue here is ops here in the US. The number of rats and moderate wanderers in this country that have to be dealt with are a more pressing problem that Americans need to deal with.

This proposal allows those that are good, but have no power to change MX tyrany and corruption to escape. If implemented correctly, it leaves no room for reasonable, or justifiable claims of human rights violations, or compassion for strict enforcement.

"but often that work ethic they have is kind of backward --- you can tell a Mexican to plow your field, he'll grab a shovel and get to work, you tell an American to plow your field, he'll ask where is the tractor."

That's not my observation. Work ethic is independent of any choice of tools. Tool choice depends on intelligence and amongst all groups there are varying levels. Freedom calls for allowing individuals to make their own choices, business arrangements and associations, tool use...In general to determine their own destiny in their pursuits.

265 posted on 01/24/2004 9:09:54 AM PST by spunkets
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