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French Sikhs Threaten To Leave Country
The Guardian (UK) ^
| 1-23-2004
| Jon Henley
Posted on 01/23/2004 5:40:51 PM PST by blam
French Sikhs threaten to leave country
Jon Henley in Paris
Friday January 23, 2004
The Guardian (UK)
Last month, France barely knew its Sikh community existed. Next month, it may not exist: Sikhs have said they may leave if they are forced, under a planned ban on religious symbols in state institutions, to remove their turbans. "We cannot take them off," said Jasdev Singh Rai, a negotiator sent by the Golden Temple in Amritsar, the Sikhs' holiest shrine, to do battle with Paris officials. Many Sikhs may rather go than "live among intolerant people", he said.
A 5,000-strong Sikh community has been living in the northern Paris suburbs, near the Gurdwara Sahib temple in Bobigny, for many decades.
Chain Singh, a leader of the temple, said the community had been "completely overlooked" during the drafting of the ban, which is intended to stem the rising impact of radical Islam on France's secular republic.
The law would ban all "conspicuous" symbols of faith - including Muslim veils, Jewish skullcaps, large Christian crosses and even, if they are considered signs of religious affiliation, beards and bandanas - from all state institutions, starting in September.
Mr Singh said that Sikhs in many countries were allowed to wear turbans in armies and police forces. In the UK and Germany, they could ride motorbikes without helmets.
French Sikhs argue the ban should not apply to turbans. They say they are a practical covering for the hair, which their religion bars them from cutting. The turban, they say, is therefore just a cultural symbol, rather than a religious one. In turn, the most ardent supporters of the ban say that if the turban is merely cultural, then Sikhs are not obliged to wear it.
The Sikh community in France - many of whom have no ID cards because identity photographs must be taken bare-headed - has organised a petition and a protest march in Paris on January 31.
Mr Rai said he had held "encouraging" talks with officials in the foreign, interior and education ministries.
"They realise they are in very muddy waters," he said. "We are being pigeonholed into categories we don't fit in."
Officials, however, say the government is "very nervous" about making exceptions. The education minister, Luc Ferry, has even suggested that Sikhs may wear "invisible" turbans, or hair nets. A Sikh community spokesman responded that France, the home of haute couture, must be able to find a solution acceptable to all.
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: country; france; french; frenchsikhs; leave; sikhs; threaten
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posted on
01/23/2004 5:40:51 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
France really screwed up...
2
posted on
01/23/2004 5:42:04 PM PST
by
Dog
("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
To: blam
As long they don't move here.......
3
posted on
01/23/2004 5:44:33 PM PST
by
RWR8189
(Its Morning in America Again!)
To: Dog
"Sikhs have said they may leave..."
Dont let the door hit ya where Allah Split ya!
4
posted on
01/23/2004 5:45:44 PM PST
by
Samurai_Jack
(Pacifism by its nature invites escalating acts of war on anyone who practices it.)
To: Dog; blam
They would be welcome in Mecca.
/sarcasm
5
posted on
01/23/2004 5:45:45 PM PST
by
maestro
To: All
Sikhs are NOT Muslims, folks. An innocent Sihk was murdered here in the good old US of A by a jerk who thought anyone in a turban was fair game after 9/11.
Sikhs believe in a monolethic god akin to Zorastrians.
Now, if only the French Muslims would return from whence they came...
6
posted on
01/23/2004 5:49:10 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: All
Ooops, meant to spell monolithic, NOT monolethic...
7
posted on
01/23/2004 5:50:09 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: RWR8189
"As long as they don't move here...."
LOL
8
posted on
01/23/2004 5:50:54 PM PST
by
Arpege92
To: blam
SURE THEY WILL!!!
9
posted on
01/23/2004 5:52:29 PM PST
by
Tacis
To: Arpege92
sikhs are good people
10
posted on
01/23/2004 5:52:38 PM PST
by
Pikamax
To: demnomo
Thanks for educating the knee jerk arrogants that post here. They are the ones who give Free Republic a bad reputation.
ARA
11
posted on
01/23/2004 5:54:13 PM PST
by
ARA
To: Pikamax
Right you are. Sihks come from India and have served Western governments like Britain with honor and distinction.
12
posted on
01/23/2004 5:54:39 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: demnomo
Wrong twice, then, I think. I believe what you want is "monotheistic".
13
posted on
01/23/2004 5:57:48 PM PST
by
RonF
To: demnomo
"... Sikhs are NOT Muslims, folks. An innocent Sihk was murdered here in the good old US of A by a jerk who thought anyone in a turban was fair game after 9/11." We can be thankful only that incident and one other (that I recall) happened, the rarity of which does credit to our nation.
However, I thought that we had another story posted here that the true motive turned out to be a failed robbery attempt by a ex-con who had a history of armed robbery. Is that not true?
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posted on
01/23/2004 5:57:51 PM PST
by
The KG9 Kid
(‘Yeaaaaaghh!’ ® 2004, Howard Dean.)
To: RonF
LOL! You're quite right. However, I know I'm right about the Sihks. :)
15
posted on
01/23/2004 5:59:13 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: blam
I would say that I cared if they left, but, I would be lying.
16
posted on
01/23/2004 5:59:24 PM PST
by
sport
To: RWR8189
Exactly my thoughts!!!
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posted on
01/23/2004 6:00:09 PM PST
by
It's me
To: RonF
Ooops, I mean Sikhs! I'm typing way too fast
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posted on
01/23/2004 6:00:48 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: The KG9 Kid
Don't remember that angle of the story. Maybe some other FReeper can enlighten us.
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posted on
01/23/2004 6:02:04 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: RWR8189
Why not?
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posted on
01/23/2004 6:02:23 PM PST
by
uglybiker
(nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BATMAN!)
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