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To: A. Pole
WHOA!

I need to do some reading then!

Are you saying that the Lenin's movement was funded by Germany?
179 posted on 01/25/2004 3:51:16 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Are you saying that the Lenin's movement was funded by Germany?

Yes.

182 posted on 01/25/2004 3:55:38 PM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I need to do some reading then! Are you saying that the Lenin's movement was funded by Germany?

You sure do. Lenin was SENT IN to Russia by the Germans in April of 1917, during WW-I, in order to destabilize Russia (which was on the Allied side) and take it out of the war. He succeeded

197 posted on 01/25/2004 5:12:40 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I need to do some reading then! Are you saying that the Lenin's movement was funded by Germany?

Here's your first history lesson

Thus, a new and liberal government came to power in Russia. All those cultured, sensitive souls from Chekhov plays were running the country. This provisional government commanded the fervent support of millions; unfortunately, none of them were in Russia. What is freedom of the press to a nation of illiterates? The provisional government inherited chaos and chose to perpetuate it. Although the world war had toppled the monarchy, the new government intended to keep Russia in the carnage. The Russian masses were ready for any leader or ideology that ended the war, and Lenin took this as his opportunity.

In late March 1917, Lenin walked into the German consulate in Zurich and offered to overthrow the Russian government. He must have learned the word "chutzpah" from Leon Trotsky. Lenin peddled the Bolshevik Revolution essentially as an initial public offering. If Germany provided him with the start-up capital for his venture, he would seize control of Russia and withdraw it from the war. Germany could then shift its eastern army to France, and, with that additional half-million men, bludgeon its way to Paris and victory.

Though Lenin's scheme was preposterous, the Germans were receptive to gruesome ideas. The Second Reich had already pioneered submarine warfare and poison gas, so it was willing to invest in proletarian uprisings. Germany provided the train and traveling expenses for Lenin and his cadre of Bolshevik exiles. They arrived in Russia in April 1917; they were in control by November.

There was no one to defend democracy in Russia. Russian liberals made excellent novelists, but their idea of defense against a Bolshevik onslaught was to make a sarcastic remark in French. Most of the liberals survived the revolution (even Lenin thought that they were too amusing to kill) and ended up as tenured professors at Ivy League schools.


200 posted on 01/25/2004 5:17:33 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
While you're doing historical research, bonus points will be awarded if you can identify the one time in the 20th Century that the US military invaded the territory of Russia, and the branch that took part in the invasion, and why
208 posted on 01/25/2004 5:31:12 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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