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To: InvisibleChurch
Considering those behind "new" translations and versions OFTEN have an agenda, I say stick with what we have and chose from that. What's sad is that people are soooo stupid that they can't master an older version or a translation. There are typically concordances available that you can look up words in to pinpoint meanings. Surely using a dictionary isn't THAT difficult! A concordance is just like a dictionary.
66 posted on 01/24/2004 8:12:48 AM PST by nmh
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To: nmh
For some reason no one has brought up a chief reason why many of us stick with the KJV. It goes back to the text most modern versions are based on. They are "versions" of the conflated text of Wescott and Hort of England. All versions other than those based on the KJV are based on the work of Westcott and Hort of England.

They were liberal/gnostic/occultists. What they did is comparable to having Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton rewrite the constitution for us. The liberals think its great. We manuscriptural conservatives think otherwise.

I wonder has anyone taken the time to list the things that arose out of merry old 19th century England? By that time its spirituality had degenerated considerably from its traditional Christian heritage. An evil brew was perculating, a revolutionist gnostic/occultic brew, a corrupt melange that has cursed the world with such things as:

1. Occultism. Britain was rife with it. Helena Blavatsky, Annie Besant, etc. New Age and Feminism's roots are with these people.

2. Freemasonry. Both York and Scottish rites originated here. And from the same occultic melange as Blavatsky and New Age.

3. Socialism/Communism. Marx and Engels produced their manifesto here. Its roots are the same. Occultists of Germany took their lead here, eventually to produce Nazism. Hitler was a fan of Blavatsky.

4. Evolution Theory. Darwin's theories arose in the same area and time.

5. Dispensationalist/pretrib rapture theology. It started here... in the same area and time frame. People in Irving's movement were influenced by occultic and Kabbalistic notions around them. John Darby formulated it into a theological system that has captivated the minds of evangelicals ever since.

6. And yes, Westcott and Hort. Part and parcel of the same. The damage they did is probably on a scale greater than the above for their field of expertise was the scripture itself. Check out their occultic associations in merry old England. They mixed gnostic manuscript traditions in with the true producing a conflated text.

Jesus said beware, a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

The KJV is not perfect by no means, but I'll take it, warts and all, thee's and thou's included, over one of such questionable origins as Westcott and Hort, arising in such a melange as listed above.
106 posted on 01/24/2004 9:36:00 AM PST by sasportas
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