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Is John Kerry the new Democrat Golden Boy?
Opinion Editorials ^ | 1-24-04 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 01/25/2004 7:15:41 AM PST by SJackson

The good citizens of Iowa handed Richard Gephardt a shocking loss and they put the oft-times raging Howard Dean into a nearly hysterical state. Iowa also presented Senator John Kerry with a huge surprise win. Kerry left Iowa for New Hampshire as the odds-on favorite to win the Democrat nomination.

Senator Kerry often speaks of his war record and his military service during the Vietnam war. No one doubts that he served and by most accounts, served well. Kerry was also awarded the distinctive honor of a Silver Star. But some questions linger.

The Silver Star is awarded to those who have exhibited ''gallantry in action'' while in combat with an enemy of the United States.

It's true that Lieutenant (j.g.) Kerry was in combat. Indeed, his boat had been fired upon by the enemy. Kerry beached his boat and an enemy soldier broke and ran. Tom Belodeau, one of the boat's gunners, admitted this enemy soldier was wounded in the attack. Lt. Kerry then chased the wounded man behind a ''hootch'' where he ''finished him off.'' It was for this action that he was awarded the prestigious Silver Star.

There were some who felt this act was not deserving of such an honor. Dan Carr, a Marine who served 14 months in Vietnam, questioned whether such an honor should have been bestowed on a man who killed a retreating and wounded enemy soldier.

When young Kerry returned to the States, he began protesting against the Vietnam War. On April 23, 1971, Kerry testified before Congress about atrocities he had allegedly seen and heard about. He testified that American soldiers ''raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, [had] blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.'' He stated there never was a communist threat in Vietnam.

He joined a group called ''Vietnam Vets against the War.'' This group eventually abandoned him because the members realized that he was using their cause as a platform for his own personal gain. He was making it appear as though American soldiers were out-of-control animals, rampaging across Vietnam torturing and killing for sport. This was not their message. They were protesting the war. They weren’t accusing their fellow soldiers of being murderers and rapists. They had not seen any of the behavior Kerry stated he witnessed. One member remarked that Kerry seemed to be making it up to give people what they wanted to hear.

Recently, Senator Kerry gave a speech at a Vietnam War Memorial, and any of the veterans turned their backs to him and walked away. They saw him as the man who called them war criminals in his testimony before Congress. The man who received the Silver Star for killing a wounded, retreating enemy soldier, had accused them of hideous war crimes.

Michael Benge, a Viet Nam POW from 1968 to 1973, wants Americans to know that it was Kerry who blocked ''The Vietnam Human Rights Act.'' (HR-2833) Benge believes that action gave Hanoi the green light to ignore violations of human rights with the blessing of the United States.

Senator Kerry can often be heard making the statement that the Bush Administration is controlled solely by ''special interests.'' Of course, he is untouched by this disease that he says permeates the Republican Party.

The senator was the head of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs in 1992. He pushed vigorously to normalize relations with Vietnam. He visited Vietnam and praised them for being open and reported he was convinced they were not holding American POWs. Many families didn’t believe him then and don’t believe him now. But why would he be so anxious to normalize relations with the former enemy?

The answer is special interests and money. Collier's International, based in Boston, was immediately awarded the exclusive contract to rebuild Vietnam’s infrastructure by the Vietnamese government. They made tens of millions of dollars from the contract. The chief executive officer of Collier's International was a man named C. Stewart Forbes. Interestingly, Senator Kerry’s middle name is Forbes. There is a reason for that. C. Stewart Forbes is John Kerry’s cousin.

The New Yorker Magazine touted Kerry as the senator who defeated the ''mendacious POW lobby.'' Yes, Kerry helped defeat those tenacious family members who wanted to know what happened to their missing loved ones. His strange bedfellow in this battle against POW families was none other than fellow Senator and former POW John McCain.

This committee’s final report in 1993 was chilling. It determined that American POWs were left alive in Viet Nam after the war but felt none were still alive. It makes no attempt to identify those left behind, how they died, who killed them, and where their remains are located. They were abandoned in life and death.

Is Senator Kerry in full support of our intelligence gathering capabilities? His voting record indicates he is not.

In 1994/95, Kerry proposed a bill to gut $1.5 billion from intelligence and freeze spending for two major intelligence programs--the National Foreign Intelligence Program and Tactical Intelligence Program. (S. 1826) That bill did not make it to a vote, but the language was retooled, the amount dropped to $1 billion, and it was finally defeated as S. Amendment 1452 to H.R. 3759. (S. 1826, Introduced 2/3/94)

He voted to cut 80 million from the FBI budget. (HR-2076)

In 1997, Kerry felt there that were no threats to the United States. This prompted him to place this statement in the Congressional Record: ''Now that the [Cold War] struggle is over, why is it that our vast intelligence apparatus continues to grow even as Government resources for new and essential priorities fall far short of what is necessary?'' (Congressional Record, 5/1/97, p. S3891)

Twelve days after 9/11, Senator Kerry had the nerve to make this statement: ''And the tragedy is, at the moment, that the single most important weapon for the United States of America is intelligence. …we are weakest, frankly, in that particular area. So it’s going to take us time to be able to build up here to do this properly.'' (CBS’s ''Face the Nation,'' 9/23/01)

After spending years trying to lay waste to our intelligence capabilities, succeeding at times, and failing at times, he now preaches about how our intelligence community was negligent.

In ''Golden Boy--Part Two,'' his abysmal record on supporting the military will be covered.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; johnkerry
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1 posted on 01/25/2004 7:15:41 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

2 posted on 01/25/2004 7:18:48 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SJackson
I heard John Kerry last week on the stump call the recession the "Bush recession". Seeing how the recession began in March of 2000, do you think a man who doesn't know this is electable? Yes I realize he knows this and counts on the people he's talking to not to know it. Why is no one calling him on this? Oh, right now it's Democrat against Democrat, they are all saying the same lies.
3 posted on 01/25/2004 7:19:17 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: SJackson
Answer to your question is absolutley YES!
he is the love child of the mainstream liberal press...
I am watching him on Fox News Sunday right now.. He makes me so angry.. How can people support a guy that willingly admits he wants to raise our taxes and make our country weaker militarily.
I just don't get it.. He worries me though.. I have posted before saying how this guy will stop at NOTHING to win an election.. with the press on his side it scares me.
4 posted on 01/25/2004 7:25:32 AM PST by dictatorMA (Kerry - Clinton all over again.)
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To: dictatorMA
They would move this nation greatly toward socialism. Universal health care would end America, the great proven savior of the world. America would be just another France.
5 posted on 01/25/2004 7:29:49 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Vietnam's 'Appalling' Persecution [John Kerry]

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands...

6 posted on 01/25/2004 7:30:27 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
People have seemed to foget that Kerry's totally insane wife still has not stepped onto the stage after removing her straight jacket.
7 posted on 01/25/2004 7:32:11 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: SJackson
Is Kerry the new Dem Golden Boy?

Sure looks like it in this pic!

8 posted on 01/25/2004 7:32:20 AM PST by BigLittle
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To: SJackson
A person who served honorably yet has an abysmal record on supporting the military is the perfect Liberal candidate and the typical Liberal politician. They "support the troops," but when the shooting stops or when they take off the uniform, they go after the military by over-downsizing, defunding, social engineeering, wag-the-dog (misusing), depleating and not refurbishing, allowing the UN to be in charge, appointing people like Les Aspen as Sec. of Defense, too many base closures, etc, etc.....
9 posted on 01/25/2004 7:35:12 AM PST by Consort
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To: Consort
Statement of John Kerry to US Senate April 1971: "We are not best and brightest" & "There is no Communist threat"
10 posted on 01/25/2004 7:37:42 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Consort
A Kerry and Edwards ticket could be quite formidable, particularly if the hammer jobs and the deficit.
11 posted on 01/25/2004 7:38:28 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: SJackson
Do golden boys take golden showers?
12 posted on 01/25/2004 7:39:28 AM PST by Enterprise ("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
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To: SJackson
>> There is no Communist threat"

I have to give Kerry one thing, he is a man of ACTION! Given there was no Communist treat, he teamed up with good 'ol Teddy to try his best to make one!
13 posted on 01/25/2004 7:43:28 AM PST by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
>> ... Hammer Jobs and deficit

Unemployment will be down by election time - and here is the untold story about unemployment, it's on the down turn already. I'm in Pennsylvania, and unemployment just feel to 5.1% ... I wonder out there - How many blue states have comporable or falling unemployment rates?

It looks like Bush is going to submit a budget with a 1% increase (heard some call it a 'freeze') in non-military and non-homeland security spending. I can hear the Dems cry about the starving children and the old folk eating dog food already. This is the perfect trap being set. The Dems words today will come back to haunt them if they want to get fiscal.
14 posted on 01/25/2004 7:50:12 AM PST by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: SJackson
Kerry is the New POLL(en), whatever the polls suggest, idiots flock to the conclusion
15 posted on 01/25/2004 7:52:59 AM PST by LandofLincoln ((the right has become the left))
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To: RiflemanSharpe
A Kerry/Cleland ticket would be tough, as well.
16 posted on 01/25/2004 7:56:25 AM PST by Consort
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To: SJackson
I hope so. There is virtually zero chance that the American electorate would pick this guy to listen to for the next four years.

Rove isn't sad about this shift, although Dean would have been a lot more fun. Kerry will run a formidable campaign, but it is still a potential landslide. I expect Kerry can pick up a handfull of states that Dean would have lost.

17 posted on 01/25/2004 7:58:56 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: SJackson
How did he get that big head up Jane Fondas butt?
18 posted on 01/25/2004 8:00:39 AM PST by noutopia (Don't hate me cause I'm right !)
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To: SJackson
Kerry will not only open those borders he will open the tax payers wallets to them...in goods and services...
With Whorlywood, the popular press and academia nuts on his side...truth will be damned...
This nation elected the Clintlers to TWO terms...the first one ya can chalk up to Perot and Bush SR with a lame campaign (imo)
But the second?....that is on the American people..the blue zone people...
19 posted on 01/25/2004 8:02:20 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: SJackson
With all the FREE publicity this NASTY looking dude's getting, it's Effin shameful!! I turned off the tube this morn, Ketchup BIMP was on all the channels! And they, the liberalRatfinkmediawhores say they ain't BIASED...B.S!! DAMN, bastards! Now we know who their anointed king is!! Hmmmm I wonder if this pisses off the BEAST of NY! Thanks to MCVain this is a an example of what to expect in the VERY near future!! Ketchup boy all the time, day and night. Mark my words. The media is gunning down W and I'm afraid they have the upper hand on this one....ARRRRRGGGGGHHH!!
20 posted on 01/25/2004 8:02:26 AM PST by RoseofTexas (r)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
Kerry doesn't worry me at all. He has a well-documented liberal voting record, and liberals from Massachussetts are not particularly attractive in the South or in flyover country.

He talks like a snot, which in fact he is.

21 posted on 01/25/2004 8:03:44 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SJackson
Senator Kerry often speaks of his war record and his military service during the Vietnam war.

Will research this further...first I've heard of it.

22 posted on 01/25/2004 8:06:00 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Dog Gone
Please don't forget that he was PeeWee Dukakis' Lt. Governor.
23 posted on 01/25/2004 8:10:29 AM PST by ninonitti
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To: ninonitti
I didn't remember that. Now, that's not going to help him any.

I'm still not convinced that he's going to win the nomination. He'll win NH on Tuesday, but I doubt he wins South Carolina. It's entirely possible that nobody will have clinched the nomination before the convention.

24 posted on 01/25/2004 8:17:32 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SJackson
The frontrunner is ALWAYS the #1 target of the ambush artists of the media, and all the other candidates. It is something I call the "crab bucket" syndrome. One crab, in a bucket, can generally manage to lever and scramble out by itself. But two or more crabs, trapped in the same bucket, will never manage the same escape. Should one crab reach a point near the top, the remaining crabs further down will pull it back, in their own efforts to scramble a little higher on the heap. As a result, none can ever leave, even though by exerting an individual effort unemcumbered by the others, they could, one by one, crawl out to freedom. Or as much freedom as a crab knows.
25 posted on 01/25/2004 8:21:42 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: HankReardon
Seeing how the recession began in March of 2000, do you think a man who doesn't know this is electable?

The bubble burst on the economy almost to the day of the Microsoft Anti-Trust verdict.

26 posted on 01/25/2004 8:24:52 AM PST by alrea (let's go back to when liberalism meant freedom from central authority)
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To: SJackson
KERRY = KENNEDY
27 posted on 01/25/2004 8:25:22 AM PST by alrea (let's go back to when liberalism meant freedom from central authority)
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To: Dog Gone
Me and every one I know will be voting for Al Sharpton in South Carolina.Hope he takes the state.
28 posted on 01/25/2004 8:27:16 AM PST by noutopia (Don't hate me cause I'm right !)
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To: SJackson
This makes me sick!

Why have I even heard Fred Barnes call him a war hero?
29 posted on 01/25/2004 8:30:28 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Enterprise
don't know but one thing for sure he will give golden showers the sheep who vote for him.
30 posted on 01/25/2004 8:41:01 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SJackson
There were some who felt this act was not deserving of such an honor.

Lot of medals in Vietnam were of the political type to officers who needed them for promotion

That was told to me by Green Berets and other veterans of that war

I had mentioned to one that Tom Ridge won the Bronze star and he said it is meaningless without a Purple Heart

Unfortunately it cheapens the medals for those that rightly deserved them
31 posted on 01/25/2004 8:41:21 AM PST by uncbob
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To: SJackson
Articles like this need to see the light of day, every day.
32 posted on 01/25/2004 8:48:40 AM PST by Gritty ("Hollywood and Broadway Communists were the polite front of an ideology of mass murder-Mark Steyn)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
"A Kerry and Edwards ticket could be quite formidable, particularly if the hammer jobs and the deficit. "

Dean may not make it as a candidate but as a Doctor he successfully made the other Dems more formitable with a gonad transplant. Methinks Clark and Gephardt also might emerge.

33 posted on 01/25/2004 8:57:14 AM PST by ex-snook (Where is the patriotism in the war on American jobs?)
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To: alrea
This is so true - it is also scary ! ! ! ! !
34 posted on 01/25/2004 9:08:18 AM PST by Castle
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To: RiflemanSharpe
How many jobs are coming to this nation from other nations?
35 posted on 01/25/2004 9:23:44 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: alrea
Kennedy was a supply sider before the term was coined, he was a conservative by today's standards. Kerry is a flaming socialist.
36 posted on 01/25/2004 9:26:10 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
Not many, we still are hemorrhaging good paying jobs. There has been some job growth but those have been for the most part MCJobs. The lack of new good paying jobs will be a big issue in this election.
37 posted on 01/25/2004 9:44:36 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: alrea
You want to know the scary part about this. When you factor in the pill bill and the amnesty. JFK's domestic agenda was arguably more conservatives then GWB's is looking. And that is just plain wrong!!!
38 posted on 01/25/2004 9:47:58 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: SJackson
Chasing down and killing a wounded enemy soldier could very well have been justified, depending on the circumstances. A wounded soldier, allowed to get into shelter with his weapon, could still represent a deadly threat. I don't know whether it deserves a silver star for bravery; it sounds like a pretty routine action.

The more serious problem is that John McCain and John Kerry took advantage of their positions as veterans and "war heroes" to betray our POW/MIAs in Vietnam.

That was inexcusable. Treachery of the worst sort, to comrades as well as country.
39 posted on 01/25/2004 9:48:27 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
That's the gruel the liberals try to spoonfeed us. Jobs are created here everyday. Many people who have been laid off will never work for some one else again, they become self-employed. Despite the recession, corporate scandals, 9-11, the unemploument extensions which encouraged people to work for cash and stay unemployed, and the liberal attacts at the economy the employment rate stayed at least at 94%. Many of these people work 2 jobs! How could this be ripe for attack by the Democrats? Bring it on!
40 posted on 01/25/2004 9:51:10 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: uncbob
Lot of medals in Vietnam were of the political type to officers who needed them for promotion...That was told to me by Green Berets and other veterans of that war... I had mentioned to one that Tom Ridge won the Bronze star and he said it is meaningless without a Purple Heart... Unfortunately it cheapens the medals for those that rightly deserved them

I don't know the circumstances of Tom Ridge's medal, but remember the Bronze Star is legitimately awarded for meritorious service. When combat heroism is involved, it comes with a V (Valor).

41 posted on 01/25/2004 10:28:38 AM PST by SJackson
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I've no problems with Kerry in the RVN, it's back here he has problems. Even if you accept his actions as legitimate protest (I don't), the circumstances of his break with the Viet Vets against the war is unclear to me.

They claim he was using them for self promotion, and they threw him out.

I believe he claims he quit after discovering they were "antiAmerican". That took him three months?

Lots of baggage, but I'm not sure it's an issue that will resonate. As you put it, his Treachery of the worst sort, to comrades as well as country seems to be accepted as honorable protest by far too many.

42 posted on 01/25/2004 10:39:45 AM PST by SJackson
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To: RiflemanSharpe; HankReardon
Jobs won't help the dems in 04, we're early in an expansion and the numbers will continue to get better. The deficit, an issue, but their solution is raising taxes, which won't fly. 2008, after 7 or 8 years of the Reagan-Bush-Bush (that's how they'll play it), they may well have an issue, particularly if GWB doesn't hold the line on spending and reform social security.
43 posted on 01/25/2004 10:50:29 AM PST by SJackson
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To: RiflemanSharpe
deficit schmeficit.

1/2 the morons in this country don't know the difference btw deficit and debt
44 posted on 01/25/2004 10:53:17 AM PST by petercooper (Dean is done!)
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To: BigLittle
who are the 2 ladies in the pic?
45 posted on 01/25/2004 10:53:52 AM PST by petercooper (Dean is done!)
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To: petercooper
deficit schmeficit.

1/2 the morons in this country don't know the difference btw deficit and debt

That is one of the thing that will help them. All they have to say is look at this huger number, and then point the finger and assign blaim.
46 posted on 01/25/2004 10:56:06 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: SJackson
There were some who felt this act was not deserving of such an honor. Dan Carr, a Marine who served 14 months in Vietnam, questioned whether such an honor should have been bestowed on a man who killed a retreating and wounded enemy soldier.

This is the first we are hearing of this? If a Republican did this, he would be labeled a War Criminal!
47 posted on 01/25/2004 10:56:13 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: RiflemanSharpe
I guess you're right - it's sad ignorant people get vote and cancel out our votes.
48 posted on 01/25/2004 10:58:11 AM PST by petercooper (Dean is done!)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
There were some who felt this act was not deserving of such an honor. Dan Carr, a Marine who served 14 months in Vietnam, questioned whether such an honor should have been bestowed on a man who killed a retreating and wounded enemy soldier...This is the first we are hearing of this? If a Republican did this, he would be labeled a War Criminal!

Likely not, but he's got plenty of baggage from that era, I don't think questioning his Silver Star is the best place to start.

49 posted on 01/25/2004 10:59:44 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

The Silver Star is awarded to those who have exhibited ''gallantry in action'' while in combat with an enemy of the United States.

It's true that Lieutenant (j.g.) Kerry was in combat. Indeed, his boat had been fired upon by the enemy. Kerry beached his boat and an enemy soldier broke and ran. Tom Belodeau, one of the boat's gunners, admitted this enemy soldier was wounded in the attack. Lt. Kerry then chased the wounded man behind a ''hootch'' where he ''finished him off.'' It was for this action that he was awarded the prestigious Silver Star.

 

Portion of John Kerry remarks on NBC's "Meet the Press" May 6, 2001:
Excerpt   (Audiotape, April 18, 1971):


MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or
another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide
and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do
you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in
Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?


KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that,
yes, yes,
I committed the same kind of atrocities

 

"Golden Boy" indeed.

50 posted on 01/25/2004 11:00:13 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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