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Female GIs reporting rapes by U.S. soldiers
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| 1/24/2004
| MILES MOFFEIT AND AMY HERDY
Posted on 01/25/2004 9:11:26 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Is it any surprise, with soldiers dieing all the time, and knowing that any day could be their last, that they want sex, and will take it if possible? Yes, it would come as a tremendous surprise to me. Being in combat does not entitle one to rape, and rapists (even those in uniform) should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:28:04 AM PST
by
Johnny_Cipher
(Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com/ sounds good to me!)
To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
**Is it any surprise, with soldiers dieing all the time, and knowing that any day could be their last, that they want sex, and will take it if possible? **
*IF* it did happen. It still wouldn't be right to force sex on a woman. Men with honor don't do this..even in a combat zone.
That said, a friend of ours is a JAG and yes indeed, there is a small percentage of the military population who would commit rape even in non-combat zones.
To: JohnGalt
This is not good. Very sad.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:30:26 AM PST
by
BlackJack
(Apres Moi Le Deluge)
To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Isn't that the same logic that Islam uses to force women to cover up? You know, that men can not control themselves?
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:31:31 AM PST
by
DMCA
(TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
To: adg122
Just wait until we are forced to use the draft. Young women will now be drafted too. Woman in the militray, orhter then as nurses, etc, is a very bad idea. Thanks Bill.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:31:52 AM PST
by
jpsb
(")
To: squidly
A long time ago I read about a soldier who was acquitted of rape because the court agreed that nobody ever dragged a woman into an upper bunk to rape her. Makes sense if you think about it.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:33:13 AM PST
by
Restorer
Check out the accusations. If there are problems, fix them. Next thread.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:34:04 AM PST
by
Consort
To: jpsb
Just wait until we are forced to use the draft. Young women will now be drafted too. Woman in the militray, orhter then as nurses, etc, is a very bad idea. Thanks Bill. You are so right. Once women are put in combat zones, even if it's by their own choice, there is little rationale to exclude women from the draft. So if one goes, we all go.
It's not fair to give women the option of being in combat when we all know that if the US were ever in a major war, men would not be given that option.
To: JohnGalt
The horrors of females in the military.
Always a bad idea.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:36:30 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: al baby
What's that wierd little animal on her shoulder?
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:36:41 AM PST
by
montomike
(montomike)
To: wirestripper
You know the men could try controlling themselves. Or do you agree with Islam that men can not control themselves so women should be kept covered-up?
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:37:59 AM PST
by
DMCA
(TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
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To: DMCA
If the combat military was 100% male, how many rapes do you think there would be? Rape is not just about power, its also about sex. An integrated combat military means many more rapes than an all-male combat military. That fact alone shows that the whole "rape is about power" philosophy is retarted.
To: Restorer
A long time ago I read about a soldier who was acquitted of rape because the court agreed that nobody ever dragged a woman into an upper bunk to rape her. Makes sense if you think about it.
Yeah, well that is an old story. Because NOW the definition of rape has been expanded to include withdrawl of permission AT ANY POINT during intercourse. She can say yes, strip, get in bed, etc etc and if she says STOP at ANY point, and the male doesn't, voila, its RAPE.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:40:10 AM PST
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: DMCA
What a line of reasoning!
Assertion #1:
We don't want to put our women in places where the chances of rape increase dramatically.
Assertion #2:
The Taliban protects its women from rape through oppression of women rather than teaching its young men the virtues of self-control.
Conclusion:
Anyone who has concerns about putting women in harm's way must have the same motivation as the Taliban. In fact, maybe they are the Taliban!
To: JohnGalt
3rded.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:42:57 AM PST
by
KantianBurke
(2+2 does NOT equal 5)
To: DMCA
You know the men could try controlling themselves. Or do you agree with Islam that men can not control themselves so women should be kept covered-up?
Yeah men should control themselves, but only idiots refuse to recognise that human nature is such that under extreme stress like combat some won't.This just one of many reasons women do not belong on the battlefield. Why do you think for the last 4,000 years of Western civilization armies have consisted of men pretty much exclusively?
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:43:23 AM PST
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: DMCA
You know the men could try controlling themselvesA total fallacy!
Young men are genetically driven sex machines.
The reason they are such good fighters in battle is that those raging hormones are re-directed by training and self discipline.
That same self discipline has limits and when emotionally needy women are added to the equation, the answer is usually predetermined.
In other words, the result is certain.
Take away the factor and the answer is different.
Just plain ole common sense.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:43:54 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: independentmind
Nail on the head. If we were go to a draft, women should be drafted in numbers and MOSs proportional to the numbers and billets currently held. If we, as a country, are not willing to do that, women shouldn't be in the military in the first place.
To: LetsRok
That's right!! These women are just going thru counseling for nothing..surely they all made up stories about being raped...Our GI's would never do that...</Sarcasm>
How dare anyone doubt a woman when she is raped...it could have been date rape when she was unarmed...
Yes, they should be out of the combat zone, but they also should not be raped...
And I am a male...
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:44:54 AM PST
by
Ecliptic
(Keep looking to the sky)
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