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The General: Did Clark Fail to Salute? (Clarks NATO Firing)
Newsweek ^ | Feb 2, 2004 | Evan Thomas and T. Trent Gegax

Posted on 01/25/2004 12:13:22 PM PST by XHogPilot

Wes Clark won a war, but ran afoul of his Pentagon masters and lost his job. (snip)

Gen. Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that Clark had been sacked as commander of NATO forces after the 1999 Balkans war because of "integrity and character issues." (snip)

What really happened? According to a knowledgeable source, Clark ran afoul of Cohen and Shelton by being less than totally forthcoming in morning conference calls during the Kosovo war in the spring of 1999. From his NATO headquarters in Brussels, Clark wanted to wage the war more aggressively, but back in the Pentagon, Cohen and Shelton were more cautious. They would give Clark instructions on, for instance, the scale of the bombing campaign. "Clark would say, 'Uh-huh, gotcha'," says NEWSWEEK's source. But then he would pick up the phone and call [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair and [Secretary of State] Madeleine [Albright]." As Clark knew full well, Blair and Albright were more hawkish than Shelton and Cohen. After talking to the State Department and NATO allies, Clark would have a different set of marching orders, says the source, who has spoken about the matter with both Cohen and Clark. "Then, about 1 o'clock, the Defense Department would hear what Clark was up to, and Cohen and Shelton would be furious (snip)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; clark; election; evanthomas; generalclark; kosovo; nato; wesleyclark
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This must be where the saying "An Army of One" originated. Failed to follow the direction of Secretary of Defense. Why is this scum drawing a retirement check? Why is he not on trial/in jail?
1 posted on 01/25/2004 12:13:23 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Idaho5412
Isn't 'scum' a little harsh?

No.

3 posted on 01/25/2004 12:17:49 PM PST by Lauratealeaf (God bless our troops and their Commander in Chief, President George W. Bush)
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To: XHogPilot
Doing an "end-around" is a certain way to get fired. I'd have fired him myself and enjoyed it.
4 posted on 01/25/2004 12:19:41 PM PST by RichardW
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To: XHogPilot
Is this the same Newsweek that ran a fantasy article which left the reader with the impression that a poll of Democrats in New Hampshire was a national poll showing that Kerry would beat GW in the general election? Yes, it is.
5 posted on 01/25/2004 12:19:58 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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Isn't 'scum' a little harsh?

XHogPilot is being too kind. I believe lying, egotistical scum is more appropriate.

7 posted on 01/25/2004 12:21:25 PM PST by BigWaveBetty (Won't you please, won't you please, please won't you be my neighbor?)
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To: Idaho5412
Clark is, in fact, scum.

He is that typical '90s Clinton-approved officer who will transgress every moral and legal boundary to grasp the next rung on the ladder.

I've served with these fellow officers and no one hates them more than I do.....

8 posted on 01/25/2004 12:21:32 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: XHogPilot
"Why is he not on trial/in jail?"

Because he's Bill Clinton's pet general, that's why.

9 posted on 01/25/2004 12:21:44 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Idaho5412
Brevity is the soul of wit.
10 posted on 01/25/2004 12:22:01 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Come see the violence inherent in the system!)
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Idaho5412... Since Jan 25, 2004

Actually, scum is too gentle a term to describe this lying, two-faced, butt-kissing, un-American perfumed prince. That's why watching him self-immolate is great fun.

11 posted on 01/25/2004 12:22:22 PM PST by Cautor
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To: Idaho5412
Harsh? Not at all.
12 posted on 01/25/2004 12:22:32 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Idaho5412
"Isn't 'No' a little too brief of a response? "

No.

13 posted on 01/25/2004 12:22:38 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Idaho5412
Depends on what the meaning of no is. /s
14 posted on 01/25/2004 12:23:05 PM PST by rintense
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To: XHogPilot
For being first in his class at West Point, Wesley can't be too smart. This story has the smell of Hillary all over it. (I know, that's not a good thought.)

He should have seen this coming.
15 posted on 01/25/2004 12:24:24 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: RichardW
Doing an "end-around" is a certain way to get fired.

Indeed. "Back Dooring" your superiors is taboo in the private sphere and in the military.

16 posted on 01/25/2004 12:24:30 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.VirtueMedia.org)
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"You people always want to bomb someone. It's some kind of orgasm." Albright silenced the men in the room by remarking, "I forget what an orgasm is."

I'll bet that did silence them. Who wants to deal with the vision of Halfbright and orgasms!

17 posted on 01/25/2004 12:24:37 PM PST by expatpat
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I think Clark is now toast along with Dean.
18 posted on 01/25/2004 12:24:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
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Was Clark going around them? Not really. As NATO commander, Clark told NEWSWEEK, "I wore two hats."

The issue is not an issue of "who" his bosses were, but rather an issue of being a straight shooter. Apparently, Clark didn't level with Shelton. One of the 4 c's critical to any military career is CANDOR. (Courage, Competence, Commitment being the other 3.) These are drummed into every soldier, and especially into leaders.

The way Clark was playing it, his lack of Candor with Shelton and Cohen left them hanging in the wind.

19 posted on 01/25/2004 12:24:50 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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Alittle off topic but not realy. Concerning nuclear protocol and the football. If a sitting President decided to launch a nuke, who or what if any could stop it. Also, if one needed to be launched and the President refused, could anyone else initiate a launch. If no one here knows, where would on go to find out?
20 posted on 01/25/2004 12:25:10 PM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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