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Still no Justice for Rachel Corrie (Cry Me a River Alert!)
Seattle PI, via Palestine Chronicle ^ | January 23, 2004 | Wendly Smith

Posted on 01/26/2004 4:49:51 AM PST by PeaceCorpsGuy

Still No Justice for Rachel Corrie - Smith --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Friday, January 23 2004 @ 12:57 PM EST

"It is an insult to the human heart to have to force government officials to do their jobs properly while digesting the fact your child has been brutally killed .."

By WENDY SMITH

Tom Hurndall, a 22-year-old British peace activist, died last week in a London hospital. He was shot in the head by Israeli sniper fire nine months ago while shepherding Palestinian children in the Gaza Strip out of the line of fire. He had been in a coma since his injury. Hours before Hurndall died, the soldier who shot him was charged with aggravated assault. The charge is now likely to be revised to manslaughter or murder; British police are participating in an official investigation of his death.

Rachel Corrie from Olympia was crushed to death by an Israeli military bulldozer in the Rafah refugee camp about a month before Hurndall was shot there. Like Hurndall, Corrie was a volunteer with the Palestinian-led International Solidarity Movement to End the Occupation of Palestine (ISM). Like Hurndall, she was killed by an identifiable Israeli soldier. As in Hurndall's case, the Israeli government initially released a report on Corrie's killing, stating that nobody connected with the Israeli military was culpable and that further investigation was not required.

So, why has Hurndall's killer been charged when nothing has happened to Corrie's killer?

According to the Hurndall family, the only reason the soldier who shot him has been charged is because of pressure applied by the family. Hurndall's father is an attorney. He went to Rafah shortly after the shooting and compiled an extensive dossier of eyewitness affidavits, forensics reports, photographs and other relevant information. This dossier was put before the British foreign secretary in a way that made it very difficult to ignore. Ultimately, the British government went to bat for Hurndall, an unarmed British civilian killed by an Israeli soldier under the impression that he could shoot with impunity.

Indeed, the soldier had good reason to believe this. More than 2,000 unarmed Palestinian civilians, many of them children, have been killed in the occupied territories since the current intifada began in September 2000. Only 10 Israeli soldiers have been indicted and none has been convicted. A culture of impunity permeates the Israeli military, which is well known for its non-investigations of itself. For this reason, the Hurndall family would like to see the investigation of his death extend all the way up the chain of command.

Corrie's parents are not lawyers. In addition, they were told by members of the Washington state congressional delegation and State Department officials that if they quietly played along, justice for their daughter would ultimately be achieved. So far, all that has emerged is a non-credible Israeli military report claiming that 1) Corrie was not run over by a bulldozer and 2) even if she had been, the driver could not have seen her. These statements are contradicted respectively by the autopsy report and multiple eyewitness reports.

It is an insult to the human heart to have to force government officials to do their jobs properly while digesting the fact your child has been brutally killed.

Somehow the Hurndall family was able to take the necessary steps in the timeframe required. Believing what their congressman, senators and State Department officials told them, the Corries have been left to swallow lies.

Is this the best our members of Congress can do for a citizen killed abroad? Plenty of them made pretty speeches but real action is a question of political will.

About the author: Wendy Smith of Seattle is an activist with the Seattle Palestine Solidarity Committee.

Source: The Seattle PI


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Earth to Wendy Smith: There is no love lost for Rachel Corrie and all those who side with terrorists.
1 posted on 01/26/2004 4:49:52 AM PST by PeaceCorpsGuy
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
"He was shot in the head by Israeli sniper fire nine months ago while shepherding Palestinian children in the Gaza Strip out of the line of fire."

I'll bet it was Palestinian "children" like these yoots, who were only throwing stones:


2 posted on 01/26/2004 5:06:11 AM PST by Wumpus Hunter (We must insure there is room for all animals - right next to the mashed potatoes!)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Ditto--All I can add is Rachel Corries parants seem cut from
the same load as Barry Winchels-- willing to let their children do whatever-but then expecting the govt. to make
right what mom an dpop failed to do.No tears for Rachel Corrie.
3 posted on 01/26/2004 5:07:03 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Bulldozer 1
Hippies 0
4 posted on 01/26/2004 5:07:48 AM PST by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Like Hurndall, she was killed by an identifiable Israeli soldier.

Sorry, but I figure that somewhere on this earth, there are still parents who teach their kids not to run directly into moving earthmoving equipment. If they would have caught her smoking a pack of Marlboros, her parents would probably have grounded her...
As it was, the bulldozer got first nibs.
Geez. Did I say that? I was just wondering what kind of fuss would have been raised if it was a Jewish kid in Seattle that ran into a *righteous* palestinian?

5 posted on 01/26/2004 5:08:40 AM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Poor little Rachel...


6 posted on 01/26/2004 5:10:21 AM PST by BSunday (Yeeaaaaagh!)
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
Gee, that's very Christian to say...
7 posted on 01/26/2004 5:11:18 AM PST by bluester
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
"Next, here on Palestine's Funniest Home Videos"...


8 posted on 01/26/2004 5:11:43 AM PST by BSunday (Yeeaaaaagh!)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
"Is this the best our members of Congress can do for a citizen killed abroad?"
Mmmm... Lets do the math here. Going to a violent region with the intent of helping terrorists + bleeding-heart liberal mentality = A funeral that nobody will attend or cry for.
9 posted on 01/26/2004 5:15:21 AM PST by revenge63
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Rachel Corrie got all the justice she could handle.
10 posted on 01/26/2004 5:16:38 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: bluester
how is that un-Christian? Are you a Christian? Just curious.
11 posted on 01/26/2004 5:17:11 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: johnb838
I guess humanity and the lives of civilians mean a bit more to me then some others.. Apparently if someone of a different ideological background is killed just for his ideas (opposing occupation, house demolishment) he/she deserves to be bulldozed?

Not by MY human standards, sorry
12 posted on 01/26/2004 5:20:14 AM PST by bluester
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To: bluester

VROOOOOM VROOOOOM

13 posted on 01/26/2004 5:30:01 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: bluester
How do you feel about bombs in Pizza Parlors and Busses? How about if someone walked into your Thanksgiving dinner and blew the whole thing sky high? How about if somebody blew up a border crossing? What would you, as a government, do then? Shut it down? Oh no, you mustn't, that would be occupation. This poisonous little byotch thought she would be coddled by the Israelis just like she would have in Seattle. She wasn't. Cry me a river.
14 posted on 01/26/2004 5:30:18 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: bluester
Apparently if someone of a different ideological background is killed just for his ideas (opposing occupation, house demolishment) he/she deserves to be bulldozed?

She was killed because her ideas told her she could stop a bulldozer. She was an idiot and if the bulldozer didn't get her she would have made sure something else would have. A real superthinker that one.

15 posted on 01/26/2004 5:32:05 AM PST by SouthernFreebird ( Go Panthers !)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
That reminds me of where to go for breakfast....

16 posted on 01/26/2004 5:33:26 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Come see the violence inherent in the system!)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Rachel Corrie from Olympia was crushed to death by an Israeli military bulldozer in the Rafah refugee camp about a month before Hurndall was shot there. Like Hurndall, Corrie was a volunteer with the Palestinian-led International Solidarity Movement to End the Occupation of Palestine (ISM).

This woman’s death is regrettable.

It is regrettable that she was idiotic enough to stand in front of a moving bulldozer.

It is regrettable that she was naive enough to believe the PLO propaganda.

It is regrettable that her parents were not able to dissuade her from going to Israel, a place well known for violent people just aching to get Americans killed in order to get there cause front page coverage.

It is also regrettable that the American press has people like the author who are more willing to blame soldiers doing their job than to hold individuals responsible for their own foolish and suicidal behavior.

17 posted on 01/26/2004 5:34:42 AM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
She was supporting the terrorists. Sorry what happened but if you lie down with dogs you might get fleas. To bad so sad.
18 posted on 01/26/2004 5:35:47 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: bluester
I guess humanity and the lives of civilians mean a bit more to me then some others.. Apparently if someone of a different ideological background is killed just for his ideas (opposing occupation, house demolishment) he/she deserves to be bulldozed?

For the record, she wasn't purposefully "bulldozed." Even her peacenik cohorts-in-crime say the bulldozer driver didn't kill her on purpose.

Now . . . using your logic, it's okay for a demonstrator, any demonstrator -- regardless of their cause or beliefs -- to protest with impunity. Have I got that about right?

Okay, let's say protestors don't like taxis. So they can block every taxi in New York City while society is to treat them like pampered, endangered creatures?

Airplanes? No problem, the anti-airplane goons can stand in front of every prop in the U.S. and the pilots are expected to turn their engines off and sit idly by.

Civil protests carries responsibilities and costs. If you're not willing to pay the price for your actions, especially when the slightest of accidents might kill you, then perhaps you'd be better served writing a Letter to the Editor instead of playing chicken with a bulldozer.

19 posted on 01/26/2004 5:39:59 AM PST by geedee (Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
I suspect that Rachel has got a very large dose of justice. A bit more than she could handle.

20 posted on 01/26/2004 5:40:59 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
27 days til free pancakes!!!
21 posted on 01/26/2004 5:42:56 AM PST by BSunday (Yeeaaaaagh!)
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To: bluester
Silly guy, she was not killed for her ideological background, she was killed by stepping in front of an armored bulldozer in a blind spot.

Most bulldozer drivers assume that you step out of the way, not into the way. Human wheel chock does not work for cars, why would it work for bulldozers?
22 posted on 01/26/2004 5:43:53 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Rachel died of terminal stupitity
23 posted on 01/26/2004 5:44:09 AM PST by bert (Have you offended a liberal today?)
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To: bluester
Apparently if someone of a different ideological background is killed just for his ideas (opposing occupation, house demolishment) he/she deserves to be bulldozed?

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." - William Munny

Unforgiven (1992)

24 posted on 01/26/2004 5:44:40 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Alouette
Ping for your fabulous graphic.
25 posted on 01/26/2004 5:48:44 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY.*)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
I have no sympathy for anti-semites and terrorists. Corrie and this other piece of trash deserved what they got for teaching young palestinians to become Hitler in a headscarf.
26 posted on 01/26/2004 5:52:43 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
I am sorry this misguided girl is dead -- but, when you consort with terrorists, the outcome is not unexpected.

This article, posing as journalism, is one of the most blatant examples of propaganda I've ever seen.

Corrie was a volunteer with the Palestinian-led International Solidarity Movement to End the Occupation of Palestine (ISM)

Why - what was Corrie's stake in this issue ?? The writer makes this statement as if there already is an established, internationally recognized Palestinian state.

This dossier was put before the British foreign secretary in a way that made it very difficult to ignore.

In a way difficult to ignore, what the Sam Hill is this hogwash ?? Did somebody hold a gun to their head, is blackmail involved ?? Tell us EXACTLY HOW it was presented - not some mysterious allusion to some nefarious methodology.

More than 2,000 unarmed Palestinian civilians, many of them children,

How many ?? More than 2,000 ?? Just what is a Palestinian "civilian" - I didn't know they had a standing, uniformed military force. Why the equivocation -- exactly how many, 2,019 ??

Unarmed, how does this writer know they were unarmed, more "objective" Palestinian eyewitnesses ?? What were they doing, lying in their beds sound asleep according to Palestinian eyewitnesses.

Many of them children, how many 10, 20, 1,000 ?? Show us your credentials. What's a child ?? According to the anti-smoking crowd who claims smoking kills children, anyone 23 or less who dies, and also smokes, is a child killed by smoking. By that definition, Jihad Johnny was (and still is) a child. What's this writer's definition of a "child?"

A culture of impunity permeates the Israeli military,

I don't believe that. Back it up with evidence.

which is well known for its non-investigations of itself.

Well known by whom, based on what evidence ?? Cite some OBJECTIVE evidence to support these wild claims.

In addition, they were told by members of the Washington state congressional delegation and State Department officials that if they quietly played along, justice for their daughter would ultimately be achieved.

I don't believe it. NAME the people who said this, instead of a vague reference to some delegation -- besides, I don't think ANY politician would be stupid enough to make such a statement. In the eyes of some, I'm sure they believe justice has already been achieved in the Corrie case.

Believing what their congressman, senators and State Department officials told them, the Corries have been left to swallow lies.

If, and that's a BIG IF, the Corries were told this by ALL these politicians/bureaucrats, then it probably is correct to characterize it as a lie, but -- but, I don't believe so many different people, if any at all, would have ever told the Corries such a story. If they did, then the writer should out them by name.

Is this the best our members of Congress can do for a citizen killed abroad?

Just what is it this writer wants our country to do and why ?? Instead of rhetoric, let's hear a concrete, lawful, practical suggestion.

About the author: Wendy Smith is an activist with Seattle Palestine Solidarity Committee.If this is her real name, ("Smith" give me a break) - she hardly approaches this issue with an open, objective mind. She too is as misguided as Rachel Corrie. She should stay out of the way of Bulldozers in the territory she calls Palestine.

27 posted on 01/26/2004 5:54:44 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy; dennisw; Alouette; 2sheep; Yehuda
I don't see any mention here, that the soldier was an Israeli... Arab.
28 posted on 01/26/2004 5:55:34 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Lord, I wish we had one of those around here. (sigh)
All we've got is a Waffle House, and a place called "Friendly's" -- which has a real Twilight Zone feeling about it.
29 posted on 01/26/2004 5:56:14 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: geedee
One problem with your comparison, that bulldozer WASN'T in Israel...
30 posted on 01/26/2004 6:01:49 AM PST by bluester
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To: Sloth
LOL how dare you make me laugh so early on Monday morning
31 posted on 01/26/2004 6:02:01 AM PST by cyborg
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy

32 posted on 01/26/2004 6:02:33 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Sloth
w00t! LOL teh bul1d0z3r oWn3d j0o, 73rRor15+ h1pPi3 8i7ch!
33 posted on 01/26/2004 6:07:13 AM PST by turbojugend
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
Stand in front of a buldozer, here's what happens...

SKLUUNNCH!*

No investigation needed.

*Sound effect copyright 2004. TheBigB.

35 posted on 01/26/2004 6:16:28 AM PST by TheBigB (I am Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht.)
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To: ohioman
I don't throw stones. I don't throw stones, nor do I shoot with real bullets at kids...
36 posted on 01/26/2004 6:18:00 AM PST by bluester
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To: American in Israel
"I suspect that Rachel has got a very large dose of justice. A bit more than she could handle."

She must have felt like the weight of the world was on her shoulders...
37 posted on 01/26/2004 6:23:47 AM PST by ISonnet
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To: bluester
You know, we all take up causes that are important to us.

There are many different levels of commitment.

I really don't want to question either this girl's rationale or level of commitment, but when a young girl from Washington State, heads into a region torn apart by war, she has to be willing to accept the risk, irrespective which side she chose to take.

Perhaps she felt personally her sacrifice was worth the risk, we don't know because now all we hear is others speaking in her memory, on her behalf.

It seems her parents now feel the cause was not worth the sacrifice. I don't know if they tried to discourage her from going. If they did, maybe they should have tried harder.

If they had, maybe now they wouldn't have to be asking the U.S. government to do "something more" in her behalf. Besides, its really too late anyway to do any good for Rachel.

Instead of blaming the Israelis and the U.S. government, I think Rachel's parents could better spend their time assessing whose fault is it really that their 22-Y-O daughter is dead.

Instead, it appears her parents, and this writer, are blaming everybody but Rachel herself.

38 posted on 01/26/2004 6:26:14 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: bluester
Apparently if someone of a different ideological background is killed just for his ideas (opposing occupation, house demolishment) he/she deserves to be bulldozed?

If you hurl your own body into the path of a moving bulldozer --- whether it's for political reasons or a Jackass stunt then you sort of deserve to be bulldozed.

39 posted on 01/26/2004 6:26:29 AM PST by FITZ
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To: ISonnet
1 Young American Leftist Girl with no business in Palestine + 1 Israeli Bulldozer = Smushed Young American Leftist Girl with no business in Palestine.
40 posted on 01/26/2004 6:29:46 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: bluester
The other thing you have to wonder is why her fellow protesters were more interested in getting a poster child than in saving her life ---- someone could have stopped her or pulled her out of the way. Not such nice people.
41 posted on 01/26/2004 6:31:18 AM PST by FITZ
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To: skip2myloo
CORRECTION

"Perhaps she felt personally her sacrifice was worth the risk..."

Should read: Perhaps she felt her cause was worth the risk, and ultimately her sacrifice...

42 posted on 01/26/2004 6:31:22 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: bluester; johnb838
She wasn't killed because of her ideological background; she was killed because she sat down in the path of a bulldozer.
44 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:51 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy

45 posted on 01/26/2004 6:33:56 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
These ISM characters are terrorim enablers, plain and simple. They cost innocent lives. I hope Israel does not punish the soldier who shot the British guy just to make an example of him. He's an Israeli Arab and he deserves thanks for his loyalty to Israel.
46 posted on 01/26/2004 6:41:46 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Suggest you all click on the source link and check out the source publication for this article. Worse than unsubstantiated yellow journalism, its pure propaganda.
47 posted on 01/26/2004 6:42:25 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Earth to Wendy - justice for Rachel or even the semblance of it - has nothing to do with re-election. Your Congress critter could care less. When you scrape up $50,000.00 for his re-election - he'll listen.
49 posted on 01/26/2004 6:46:25 AM PST by sandydipper (Never quit - never surrender!)
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To: Blue Jays
Good Morning All-

Have you seen photographs of the highly-modified, armored bulldozers used to raze terrorist houses in that region? They are MASSIVE with attendant large blindspots. The operator of the bulldozer likely never saw her step in front of the blade.

This situation doesn't need lots of analysis. She gambled while playing a dangerous game and lost. Calling her a "peaceful" person is especially absurd....

Taxpayers did save a little bit of money because her remains were shipped back to the United States using flat-rate postage.

~ Blue Jays ~

50 posted on 01/26/2004 7:06:36 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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