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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat
DEBKA ^ | 11/03/03

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967

Edited on 01/26/2004 2:18:02 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: informative; links; terrorism; threatmatrix
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Part 2
1 posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
Haaaa, I thought I was going to have to go and play on the Hobbit thread.
2 posted on 01/26/2004 1:03:16 PM PST by Chaos
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To: Mossad1967
Oh, look, fresh new carpet. Let's go see if there's a full bar!
3 posted on 01/26/2004 1:06:52 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txflake
Keepin it alive!!!
4 posted on 01/26/2004 1:07:56 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
Mossad do you think you could link the old thread on this one some how? I have no idea how to.
5 posted on 01/26/2004 1:10:05 PM PST by Chaos
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To: Chaos; Cindy; JustPiper
PING to Thread #2, and:


Al-Qaida (Al Qaeda) program to make chemical, biological weapons was halted by war in Afghanistan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065670/posts
6 posted on 01/26/2004 1:10:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Chaos; Cindy
For reference, here is the link to the First Thread:

Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1013726/posts

Started Nov. 3, 2003, locked (and moved to chat) on Jan. 26, 2004

Has a total of 15, 463 replies.

The "honor of the last post on that thread" goes to Cindy:

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To: jerseygirl
Adding on to post no. 15454...

I'm still running into the following dates:

February 1, 2004 - once in awhile
February 2, 2004 - OFTEN
February 2-4, 2004 - once in awhile

15,463 posted on 01/26/2004 12:22:04 PM PST by Cindy
7 posted on 01/26/2004 1:13:51 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks a bunch.
8 posted on 01/26/2004 1:17:24 PM PST by Chaos
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To: Mossad1967
Bookmarked, thanks!
9 posted on 01/26/2004 1:18:54 PM PST by adaven
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To: All
I am afraid that I have to ask, WHO this thread (#1) threatened, to the point that it is now hidden.

Who wants the info on the first thread out of site?

No, not Mr. Robinson, but rather the unknown (to me) names, who kept complaining.

Ruth
10 posted on 01/26/2004 1:20:37 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Hugs and Prayers for your health and safety, love, granny)
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To: FairOpinion
Quite appropriate that the privilege of "last post" went to Cindy, considering all her contributions and hard work.

Let's make this one just as informative.
11 posted on 01/26/2004 1:20:38 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: Mossad1967
Whoo-hoo!! I didn't know what I was going to do without my daily dose of 'net intel. Thanks!
12 posted on 01/26/2004 1:22:53 PM PST by Mrs. Xtrmst (God bless our troops. God bless our leaders. God bless the innocents.)
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To: Mossad1967; Calpernia; Cindy; JustPiper; LayoutGuru2
Hi, Mossad1967...thanks for starting a nice, fresh thread...will try to keep up with this one!
13 posted on 01/26/2004 1:24:58 PM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Here is the reason for locking the thread and moving it to chat (if you go to the old thread, you get this:)

Locked on 01/26/2004 12:22:49 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator, reason:
The size of this thread is causing FR to slow down whenever it is accessed. It is going to be locked and moved to the chat/general interest forum. If anyone wants to post a 'Part 2' thread, go ahead, but post it to chat. Thank You
14 posted on 01/26/2004 1:28:00 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Mossad1967
Thank you so much for starting Part 2 for us. The information in the previous thread was outstanding and the work that many put into it was awesome!

That being said, I don't understand why the original thread was locked in the first place. The reason that was given doesn't hold much water in my opinion.

Keep the info flowing!
15 posted on 01/26/2004 1:29:22 PM PST by KylaStarr
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To: nw_arizona_granny


>> Who wants the info on the first thread out of site?<<

Technical reason is hogwash IMO. The database isn't loading thousands of pages of that thread per view. Even refreshing the DB index is trivial at 15 thousand records. If the number of posts was 15 million, I might buy it.

Shrug, the reality is too many whiners didn't like the thread for various reason so the Admin succumbed.
16 posted on 01/26/2004 1:34:20 PM PST by Malsua
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To: KylaStarr
The reason for locking the previous thread may not hold water for you, but believe me, every time any of the moderators attempted to access the thread the entire system slowed down. There is a known problem with how the database software works and John Robinson has not yet fixed it.

If we were trying to hide something, we could have just pulled the thread. We didn't. We merely locked it so that no more replies could be posted. The entire thread is still visible to anyone who wants to read it.

We then invited participants to start a new thread.

17 posted on 01/26/2004 1:34:26 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Mossad1967
Thanks Mossad!


18 posted on 01/26/2004 1:35:50 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Thank you for your response.
19 posted on 01/26/2004 1:39:44 PM PST by KylaStarr
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To: All
DoD Homeland Defense Official Convinced Terrorists Would Use WMD

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065706/posts

WASHINGTON, January 26, 2004 -- If al Qaeda and other terrorists were given even "half an opening," they would use weapons of mass destructions within the United States, said DoD's official responsible for homeland defense.

Paul McHale, assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense, addresses members of the Reserve Officers Association Jan. 26 at the group's mid-winter meeting in Washington. McHale encouraged reserve officers to continue the fight against terrorism. Photo by Sgt. 1st Class Doug Sample, USA
(Click photo for screen-resolution image); high-resolution image available.

"That's a chilling but hard reality," Paul McHale, assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense told members of the Reserve Officers Association here today. He said he's personally convinced that "we must be prepared not only to defeat such attacks, but, God forbid, to respond to them."

20 posted on 01/26/2004 1:41:58 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Somebody under the moniker of mercy (who obviously had none,lol) was griping. It was spooky to see the grey lock down bar across the top of the thread...a twinge of panic hit here as I wondered what was 'incoming' aside from the snow.

I still don't think it bodes well... it seems they had to free up the news section for upcoming events.
21 posted on 01/26/2004 1:42:27 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Mossad1967; tubavil
Mossad, thank you for part deux.

Tubavil, thank you for part one of the most fascinating and insightful thread I've seen on FR in a long time.
22 posted on 01/26/2004 1:42:38 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Mossad1967
Hi Mossad1967. I was waiting for someone to create Part II! Thanks. The move to chat by the mod makes much sense.
23 posted on 01/26/2004 1:42:46 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Sidebar Moderator
You have to understand that most people on this (and the old thread) are at least slightly paranoid, so they think of the "conspiracy" type explanation first. :)
24 posted on 01/26/2004 1:43:07 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: freeperfromnj; WestCoastGal
ping to part deux
25 posted on 01/26/2004 1:43:55 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
Thanks.
26 posted on 01/26/2004 1:48:09 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Domestic Church; Donna Lee Nardo; Letitring; Sean Osborne Lomax; Velveeta; Labyrinthos; TexKat; ...
Ping to the new thread!


apologies to any I left out.
27 posted on 01/26/2004 1:48:54 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: FairOpinion
Fair enough.

I don't understand the programming problem but it's not the size of the thread causing problems when all of you are posting and reading.

The problem comes up when one of you posts an Abuse Report, for whatever reason. When the moderators access the thread it puts a huge load on the system which is increasing as the thread size increases.

28 posted on 01/26/2004 1:48:56 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Mossad1967
A request for help from any Tennessee Freepers:

There was an article posted in "The Tennessean" this past week (1/23 or 1/24, I think) about continued security lapses at the Oak Ridge nuclear facility. I have searched extensively through their archives and have even Googled it, but so far no luck in finding the article to post.

Did anyone else out there read this article, and if so, any help in posting a link would be greatly appreciated.
29 posted on 01/26/2004 1:52:14 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: Sidebar Moderator
"...every time any of the moderators attempted to access the thread the entire system slowed down. There is a known problem with how the database software works and John Robinson has not yet fixed it."

That is reasonable as no one would want to slow down FR especially with 02/02/04 looming, but I wish you had announced that prior to locking it up. Thanks for explaining it on this thread.
30 posted on 01/26/2004 1:52:43 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
"When the moderators access the thread it puts a huge load on the system which is increasing as the thread size increases."

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Interesting. Maybe the system tries to load all the posts on the thread. Since most threads are not anywhere this long, it probably isn't worth to try to do some programming, so it only loads the 10 or so posts before and after the post the Mod is getting a report on. I can see, how the system trying to load over 10,000 at the same time can create problem.

I think the system is probably set up, so when we access it, it only loads the 50 or so posts on one page, and the system can handle that with no problems.
31 posted on 01/26/2004 1:54:03 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
You have to understand that most people on this (and the old thread) are at least slightly paranoid, so they think of the "conspiracy" type explanation first.

We're not paranoid. Why would you say something like that? Are you out to get us like the rest of them? Next thing you know, you'll try to follow us around like the others, you know, the guys in the trench coats with the dark glasses. And don't even get me going on those damn helicopters. Someone stole my hat. Where's my hat? Oh there it is...

32 posted on 01/26/2004 1:54:17 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: FairOpinion
Hi! Just found the new thread- any major updates?
33 posted on 01/26/2004 1:55:00 PM PST by jerseygirl
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To: liberallyconservative
I didn't find that article, but there are articles on the security lapses.

here is the result of Google News search:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&edition=us&q=Oak+Ridge+nuclear+security&btnG=Search+News
34 posted on 01/26/2004 1:56:34 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: liberallyconservative
Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the topic is the same:

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/04_Terror/040119.Oakridge.TN.html
35 posted on 01/26/2004 1:57:17 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Revel
From Thread I:

Unless you are sitting behind some really good firewalls and have very good antivirus software then be careful where you go. I am serious. These people are hacking and if they can get personal info on you then I don't know what they will do with it. They are using Java programs to do who knows what. And I don't mean to trash your computer...so it must be simply to get information about you. I may be a victim myself. I found evidence that Java web start had been used without my knowledge. And I found files in my root drive with Arabic letters for file names. I am worried quite simply. So please be careful and leave the scary web site searching up to those who are seriously set up for it.

Where in the root drive did you find the files? I'd like to take a look what's lurking in mine.

36 posted on 01/26/2004 1:58:06 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Old Sarge
Ping to the new thread
37 posted on 01/26/2004 1:59:12 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Domestic Church
Since it wasn't the number of posts, but rather, people hitting the "abuse" button frequently, I'd like to know why this thread generated that kind of reaction from so many people. (Maybe EOM or Daleel disapproved of the thread- :))
38 posted on 01/26/2004 2:00:28 PM PST by jerseygirl
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To: FairOpinion; Sidebar Moderator
"You have to understand that most people on this (and the old thread) are at least slightly paranoid"

ROFLOL...the moderator would have to read the entire part one with all the links in order to really comprehend the timing of the move to chat, one week before the countdown ends, had a tinge of the surreal (as in a Clancy novel.)
39 posted on 01/26/2004 2:01:05 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...so this is the section half of the book I hope...not the last chapter)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Thanks Sidebar Moderator.
40 posted on 01/26/2004 2:02:18 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
To Sidebar Moderator,

Thank you for your prompt answer.

I felt that we had put many links and information in the first thread and in a week it will be gone from the view as most will not know it ever existed.

I have been reading at Free Republic for about 2 1/2 years and rarely look in "Chat", as a rule, I am not a "chatter".

At least we still exist and for that I thank you,

Ruth
41 posted on 01/26/2004 2:03:27 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Hugs and Prayers for your health and safety, love, granny)
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To: Velveeta
Glad you are enjoying it.

Tip o' the hat to FR for paying the freight and Debka for the original intel.
42 posted on 01/26/2004 2:04:11 PM PST by tubavil
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To: judicial meanz
Thanx, JM.

I direct your eyes to this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065706/posts
43 posted on 01/26/2004 2:05:41 PM PST by Old Sarge ("Tears of a Clown" - Smokey Robinson)
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To: Labyrinthos
Do you want to borrow my bottle of anti monster spray?
44 posted on 01/26/2004 2:05:50 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG... it works real well for the kids)
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To: judicial meanz
Thanks a lot for the ping! I was hoping the thread wouldn't die. There's a lot of valuable information gathered on the first one.
45 posted on 01/26/2004 2:06:39 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Domestic Church
Do you think I need it? Why, I'm not paranoid. Nope not me. No monsters in my room. They stopped following me last year when I set the trap.
46 posted on 01/26/2004 2:07:54 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Velveeta; FairOpinion
Thanks for the links.

Velveeta, that link is very similar to the article I read, and seems to be based on the same info.
47 posted on 01/26/2004 2:08:54 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: liberallyconservative
There was an article I read this AM on the news side about Oakridge and I'll try to find it....now we have to jump forums to search.
48 posted on 01/26/2004 2:09:40 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Old Sarge
Thanks Sarge!

In that area, I've been worrying about 4th generation weaponry for a few months...may have to re-think my planning around general hazard mitigation based on that.
49 posted on 01/26/2004 2:14:40 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Locked threads aren't gone from view. They merely cannot be added to.

I will put a link to the original thread at the top of this current one so anyone interested can see it
50 posted on 01/26/2004 2:16:01 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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