Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture

GOPUSA.com ^ | Januray.26,2004 | Bobby Eberle

[prairiebreeze]

Good post.

Ping

[ChadGore]

Why would you argue for something (Majority DNC control of the house and/or senate) that doesn't jive with the will of the people?

Where did you get that? From your #15, I quote: "In other words, why didn't Clinton overspend as much as Bush? Because he had to push budgets through an adversarial Congress. Gridlock rules!"

Question #1: Why is the reality that the DNC sucks at winning elections a conservative problem ?

Question #2: You argue to me, a rock-ribbed-republican, that my opposition party having more power is a good thing ? Why ?

[k2blader]

Nothing at all wrong with bashing incredibly stupid ideas such as Prez Bush's (yes, he was the one who proposed it) illegal amnesty plan.

[AuntB]

Hey, Mom, thanks for the ping. Yes, I will vote for George Bush. I will hold my nose as I do it. He's as out of touch with reality as most politicians. And he will do as much harm as his supporters allow him to do.

[Tempest]

Conservatives need to work together to steer the party in the write direction and debate and compromies on issues of disagreement.

But kavetchin and bold stubborness will only lead tot he marganalization of your voice across the whole party. I think we all need to prioritize our concerns to see which is most important to us and to form sub groups within FR to actively participate in concerted efforts to get our representatives to hear us.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

The conservative movement needs a voice, and it needs a leader. President Bush is that leader, and he has stood by conservatives on many of the issues we hold dear.

Which ones would those be ?
Campaign Finance Reform ? Taking away free speach isn't Conservative !
Illegal aliens ? Allowing law breakers to become citizens isn't Conservative even if Ron Reagan did it before him !

He talks a great talk and does good during war no problems there for that i give him my upmost respect but some of these issues go far beyond people being one issue voters and he keeps giving reasons not to vote for him!

Ive been voting the issues and heavily conservative all my life and frankly Bush is scaring the hell out of me and a lot of others Ive never voted for a democrat for Presidential office and im not about to start now

I think 90% of them are scum but the republican party is starting to look alot like a gathering socialist storm waiting to erupt

And appointing a judge to throw us a bone dont fool anyone i guess were all just too damn stupid to see it coming !

[windchime]

"If Republicans and conservatives don't understand or refuse to admit that the only way to defeat "liberalism" is incrementally, we're doomed.............Do we as a nation have the wisdom to understand this and stay the course?"

I hope so, motzman! You've made some very good points.

[The_Eaglet]

Nothing at all wrong with bashing incredibly stupid ideas such as Prez Bush's (yes, he was the one who proposed it) illegal amnesty plan.

America needs to stop Bush from bashing the Constitution as we have seen him do with so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" limits on the freedom of speech and socialistic spending.

[arasina]

I don't vote for third party candidates and don't believe in protest votes. They serve no good purpose.

And those votes have serious consequences.

[ChadGore]

You argue for, your words, and I quote: "sealing the borders" as a goal you hold dear. That, with respect, is the very definition of isolationism.

Building up our troops in our own country along the border of a country that wishes us neither harm, nor bad tidings, is just plain wrong.

To my mind, there is no redeaming quality in performing a military build up along the borders of either Mexico or Canada.

You're demanding an action from the President that this country has not performed since the Mexican war (and/or the war of 1812), and then chastizing him when he doesn't deliver on this diplomatic and military impossibility.

Instead of listing all of this out, I prefer the simpler, broader truth that isolationism (in all of it's ugly forms) simply doesn't work.

[basil]

Pulling the lever for the lesser of the evils is still pulling the lever for evil.

[taxed2death]

"Isolation doesn't work".


Odd Statement....since when has upholding the laws and rules of our beloved Constitution been deemed "isolationist".

Please name time, date and location when we drove that bus over the cliff......

[deport]

Well what do you know....... Two positive articles in one day from two that normally take the President to task often.. Bobby Earle and Pat Buchanan

Bookmarking........

[blackie]

Well said PhiKapMom!

The RATS Are In Disarray ~ Eradicate The Rodents!

Fire Democrats ~ Hire Republicans!

[TheBattman]

IF Bush looses in November, it won't be because conservatives have turned their backs on Bush, it will be because Bush turned his back on Conservatives.

[ChadGore]

Re: since when has upholding the laws and rules of our beloved Constitution been deemed "isolationist".

You argued for sealing our borders.

Assuming worlds mean things, this means nobody in or out.

Why is this a good thing?

[taxed2death]

The big Poobah wants to pi$$ 15 billion away on "Aids in Africa"......a National health care (Hillary) policy....a feakin' dog and pony show on the surface of Mars...and he spends money faster than ex DC mayor Marion Barry in a crackhouse....and you think for one minute we couldn't cut the number of illegals by 30% a year, from traipsing across our borders?

Hell, if he wants to start a gub-mint jobs program, please let it do us some good, protect the borders.....

Keep on drinkin' the Bush Koolaid....

[ChadGore]

Oppps: Assuming words mean things, this means nobody in or out.

Why is this a good thing?

[TheBattman]

Particularly good reply

[taxed2death]

Sure, no one in or out BETWEEN LEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS....absolutely....not too far fetched a thing to do...from a man who spends money faster than a testosterone jacked teen for cab fare to his last booty call of the evening...YUP.