Kay "intel community owes the pres. an apologizy, rather than the pres. owing the American people"

wireservice.wired.com ^ | Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:03 p.m. ET | Reuters

[Destro]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry said on Sunday the Bush administration, including Vice President Dick Cheney, should be "held accountable" for claims Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Kerry, riding a tide of support since a surprising win Monday in the first of the U.S. presidential nominating contests, said U.S. lawmakers should hold hearings on Capitol Hill.

[Destro]

The CIA needs to be shut down and its tasks replaced by the Office of Navak Intelligence. From the failure to predict the fall of communisim to this fiasco to LSD parties and other stuff. Eisenhower was right.

[lainde]

I've been listening to Kay commentary all day. Nobody except the conservatives mention that last line.

[VaBthang4]

Yawn...

[Archangelsk]

How about some people in CIA and military intelligence walking the plank???

The senior leadership in the intelligence community didn't walk the plank after 9/11. Why do you think they'll walk now?

[mylife]

The CIA was crippled with the legislation that basically killed real HUMINT. That has now been fixed.

If there is a lesson from this whole thing it is do not let Liberals pass legislation hindering the intelligence community from doing it's job.

Aint that the truth! Boots on the ground is damn good intelligence! Ears at Syria and Irans borders is damn good intel! GW has repaired the folly of the past 8 years in less than 2.

[GeronL]

It is another shameless example of media bias, big time!

[cynicom]

Along with NSA, CIA, military, someone somewhere along the line dropped the ball. Not to roll heads is to accept failure. Failure in this business can be deadly. Regardless of the human intelligence, someone made drastic mistakes and should be held accountable.

[Texasforever]

Why do you think they'll walk now?

Maybe because it could be that Kay is wrong and not the others. I wouldn't close the book quit yet.

[harpo11]

If we did not take out deranged Saddam and his evil bastard sons, no one would know if there were WMD. Now we know lots more than we did before all this started years ago and left to linger like rotting maggot infested meat because the inept and crooked UN deliberate failure to act on their so-called resolutions. At least the United States of America settled the question rather precisely and expediently.

The world is better off without Saddam and his blood thirsty thugs. And will be much better off when every last one of these cockroaches are squished under the heel of our great military. The world should be on their hands and knees giving tribute to our valient USA Troops and their Coaltion Partners and our decisive and resolute President, George W. Bush. In fact, the world should be paying us as we are the world's lone defense against fanatical zealot murdering terrorist scum.

[VaBthang4]

Oh relax...you dont know if heads are rolling or not. Stop living off of the media.

Change is what is needed...not kneejerk reactions that salve the masses.

Many of the hinderances have been removed. It will take the CIA a decade to get back in form, while they are fighting a war against terrorism. Sweeping changes in the midst of conflict is brutally incompetent.

The situation calls for methodical change, not chopping heads.

[Destro]

You mistake the CIA with a competant organization. I am not against an intel organization existing like the left does. I want an American spy agency. Only thatthe CIA is a failure. I don't see why there is any love amongst conservatives for this failure of a Federal agency. All I am saying is shut down the CIA and replace it with a better organization. Nothing touchy feely there.

[mylife]

Either GW was duped on this intel matter or he is using it to dupe the opposition. GW is the king of rope a dope. Im not couting him out yet.

And even if he goes down he has done plenty to repair the damages of the clinton years.

[joyce11111]

KEY PARAGRAPH::::
"I actually think the intelligence community owes the president, rather than the president owing the American people," Kay said. "It is not a political gotcha issue. There is a serious issue about how he could come to the conclusion that is not matched by the future."

[VaBthang4]

Oh shut up you twit.

You have no idea the myriad of intel victories the CIA has handed this Nation and democracies everywhere over it's history.

"Every" organization has failures...you legislate an intel organization's johnson [HUMINT] off and you get catastrophic failures ala 911.

Stop being a dramaqueen. Thank God real men are in charge of this stuff.

[Destro]

There have been no CIA victories of any strategic note. A tactical victory here or there? sure.

[VaBthang4]

~Tedious~

Yes Destro, the CIA sucks, let's put you in charge of the Nation's Intelligence community.

~smirk~

[mylife]

We seem to have saddam, a hell of a lot of al queda, khaddaffi, and lil kimmy has sure piped down as of late...zup with those lame intel guys

[Miss Marple]

Thanks to David Frum on Dennis Miller's show tonigiht, I have the precise way to counter the left.

There is no doubt that there were weapons programs. What we got wrong was the inventory.

[Destro]

I really don't know why the CIA turns you on so much. I can suggest the Office of Naval Intelligence? The oldest continuing operating intel service in the land?

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/oni/

Since 1882, the Office of Naval Intelligence has provided the intelligence weapons and personnel to sustain the preeminence of United States seapower. The basic mission has remained the same as that posed to ONI's founder, Lieutenant T.B.M. Mason, by the then-Secretary of the Navy, to collect and record "such information as may be useful ... in time of war as well as in peace."

[VaBthang4]

Haha...I missed it earlier but it is reairing at midnight, I'll catch it then.