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Peggy Noonan: General Malaise (Stop Wesley Clark!)
Opinion Journal ^ | 01/27/04 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/26/2004 9:05:17 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Democrats, for the good of the country: Stop Wesley Clark!

Let me assert something that I cannot prove with a poll but that is based on serious conversations the past few months with Republicans and also normal people: 9/11 changed everything. Yes, I know you know that. But it has even changed how people who usually vote Republican think about Democratic candidates for president. Our No. 1 question used to be: Can we beat this guy easily? But now we feel the age of terrorism so profoundly challenges our country, and is so suggestive of future trauma and national pain, that our No. 1 question has become: Is he . . . normal? Just normal. Is he stable and adult and experienced?


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2004; nh; peggynoonan; peggynoonanlist; unfit; wesleyclark
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1 posted on 01/26/2004 9:05:18 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; Sabertooth; beckett; BlueAngel; JohnHuang2; *Peggy Noonan list; ...
Peggy ping!
2 posted on 01/26/2004 9:06:11 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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She's right, but I don't expect the democrats to listen.

I am torn. Although I believe Bush could beat Dean or Clark in a New York minute, I dread either one of them getting the nomination. Something might happen to Bush and one of these two would win by default.

That's too scary for me!

3 posted on 01/26/2004 9:11:47 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Pokey78
All of this was captured by Camille Paglia last summer, in an interview with Salon that at the time struck me as extreme and now seems prescient. Asked what she, as a pro-military Democrat, thinks of the retired general, she said: "What a phony! . . . Clark reminds me of Keir Dullea in '2001: A Space Odyssey'--a blank, vacant expression, detached and affectless."

Weasley - a phony for sure..............and soon everyone will know it, and then Wesley will end up in a rubber room within a decade. As the play plays on.

4 posted on 01/26/2004 9:21:54 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Pokey78
Clark will flame out just like dean. You just can't fool all the people all the time. In the end it has to be kerry by default. Even the dims will figure that out and then Pres Bush will spank him badly because kerry is a poser too.
5 posted on 01/26/2004 9:36:01 PM PST by paul51
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To: thesummerwind
Sean Hannity had George Stephanopoulos on his radio program today. Very cordial and interesting. Sean said that he'd taped Stephies Sunday program (he watches it every week) but had viewed it yet.

Sean asks: "I heard that Gen. Clark answered one of your questions with--

It depends on how you define the word "the."

"Did he really say that?"

"Yes." Says Stephie.

"Come-on, did he mean it seriously?"

"Yes," said George.

It was something to do with Clark being asked if he approved "the resolution supporting the war in Iraq." Clark had approved of it, but was now waffling.

6 posted on 01/26/2004 9:47:32 PM PST by DJtex
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To: Pokey78
Yes he's creepy, but this time Noonan didn't make the case.

And I like my generals a bit more sober than Grant.

7 posted on 01/26/2004 9:48:14 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Pokey78

8 posted on 01/26/2004 9:55:59 PM PST by happydogdesign
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To: Pokey78

Michael Moore has brought Weasely down 9 points.

Keep slugging, guys.

9 posted on 01/26/2004 9:56:12 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Pokey78
Now the wonderful Peggy needs to tune in to how bad Edwards is. Among the big media folks, I bet she'll be one of the first.
10 posted on 01/26/2004 9:57:04 PM PST by BelieveNFreedom
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To: Pokey78
It is all true, but everyone is so focused on presidential politics they miss the real story it reveals. Our military in the 1990s promoted this kind of guy to the head of Nato. Something diseased happened to the upper reaches of the American officer corps, that this character wasn't passed over at colonel until he retired. What was it, and why did it happen? And is any of it still going on?
11 posted on 01/26/2004 9:59:16 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC
*ding* *ding* *DING*! We have a winner!

You, sir, have asked the $64,000 question. And the answer is "the Clintons".
12 posted on 01/26/2004 10:08:47 PM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Pokey78
Democrats, for the good of the country: Stop Wesley Clark!

What gives Peggy Noonan the idea dumbocrats give a damn about the country??

13 posted on 01/26/2004 11:00:04 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Graymatter
''I know he drinks, probably more than is good for his office. Even so, send a case of his favorite bourbon to all our other line commanders. Perhaps that will aid them in obtaining such results.'' -- President Abraham Lincoln
14 posted on 01/26/2004 11:01:55 PM PST by SAJ
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To: SAJ
Grant: Great general, atrocious president.

Now Clark, he has possibilities. He's ambitious enough to go off on a third party tangent. The man's not an ordinary maniac, he's a messianic.

And he's only 59, he's good for quite a few election cycles.

15 posted on 01/26/2004 11:17:27 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter
Your characterisation of Grant is accurate, if a bit harsh.

So, what shall we comparatively say of one who starts out as an atrocious general? (shrug)

16 posted on 01/27/2004 12:32:44 AM PST by SAJ
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To: Pokey78; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

Peggy Noonan MEGA PING!!


17 posted on 01/27/2004 12:45:00 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: FreedomPoster
I wish. It goes rather deeper than that. Partisan politics as answer to every concern is a little too shallow for the real world. Careerism, ticket punching, officers as mere pols and spinners - these things are a little too common and run a little too deep to all be Clinton's fault. Officer careers are too long to be determined by one president.

Clark got on the "political officer" track in the 1970s, under Ford, when he went from west point poli sci academic to the OMB. He spent a long time getting from major to colonel, finally ending up in training commands. He ran the NTC under Bush the elder, which is the position he became a general to fill. After three years doing that he got command of the US 1st cav - after gulf war I. Which was being switched from a heavy army main force. He stayed there under Clinton. His Clinton era specifically political role started with Dayton (negotiating with the Serbs), and then southern command and Panama (pulling out), finally Kosovo.

What did all of these various institutions and superiors get out of him? Why did none of them ever sidetrack him? Is political brownosing still the way ahead in our armed forces? It would be naive to think there aren't a dozen others like him still serving...

18 posted on 01/27/2004 12:53:00 AM PST by JasonC
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To: SAJ
Abe also said something simpler about Grant. "I need him. He fights." It was a contrast to his predecessors...
19 posted on 01/27/2004 12:55:09 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Pokey78
bttt
20 posted on 01/27/2004 1:34:32 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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