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"The Transportation Security Administration was supposed to train and arm thousands of pilots. Where are they?"
1 posted on 01/28/2004 2:18:52 AM PST by Main Street
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To: Main Street
Blame anti-gun bureaucrats in TSA. Congress should pass a shall issue CCW law that would force the TSA to give permits to pilots in a manner similar to that in states where there's a uniform shall issue CCW permit system in place. In other words, take away the bureaucrats' discretion to throw up roadblocks in the way of our pilots being armed.
2 posted on 01/28/2004 2:23:17 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Main Street
Just because (supposedly) conservative people run the government does not mean that the rank and file government drone is conservative. Liberals tend to thrive in the unionized government labor pool and they don't want (little) people to have guns.

Another observation is that arming every pilot might just might reduce the number of government employees that would be hired, and that'd hurt the union.

Personally I think this is a sack of dung that needs to be spread across the media, but you'll only see it on Fox or read it in the Post.
3 posted on 01/28/2004 2:24:47 AM PST by kingu (I vote Republican in the general, conservative in the primary.)
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To: Main Street
A terrorist cell in waiting reads this and just smiles.
4 posted on 01/28/2004 2:24:54 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Main Street
Why not replace stewardesses with burly trained guards? They could hand out drinks and meals as well as anyone.
5 posted on 01/28/2004 2:43:02 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: Main Street; backhoe
Geographic nit:

>>In September 2003 the training site was relocated from Glynco, Georgia, fairly close to Atlanta, to the remote location of Artesia, New Mexico.

The Glynco Federal law enforcement training center is a heckuva lot closer to Jacksonville or Savannah than it is to Atlanta, being roughly mid-way between the two, off of I-95.
6 posted on 01/28/2004 3:06:20 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Main Street
Time to renew the calls to Impeach Mineta.
11 posted on 01/28/2004 3:44:22 AM PST by Fixit
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To: Main Street
In this case, our chief executive has been (dare I say it?) a miserable failure at carrying out the wishes of the people as expressed through a law passed by congress.

If one didn't know better, one might think that his agenda was to destroy the American airline/aircraft industry.

13 posted on 01/28/2004 4:16:53 AM PST by snopercod (When the people are ready, a master will appear.)
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To: Main Street
Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 47

14 posted on 01/28/2004 4:19:04 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: Main Street
If a Pilot is responsible for the safety of hundreds of people he should easily be approved for a concealed carry permit.
More crap from the fed govt. where every idiot has something to say,where is Tom Ridge and the Homeland security folks .
Seems to be all bull**it, typical for the Feds.
16 posted on 01/28/2004 5:52:15 AM PST by chatham
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To: Main Street
The TSA was set up by two groups, former FAA people and retired US Secret Service agents and their buddies. Within a year nearly all the former FAA people (some of whom actually knew something about aviation safety) were castrated and the “Secret Service Mafia” was clearly in charge.

The problems with the FFO program is not liberal gun haters, it’s the Secret Service Mafia’s view that only they (or maybe former FBI buddies) should have anything to say about what TSA will or will not do, and TSA (the “SSM”) was against the FFO program from the start. The problem is almost totally ego and elitism. Thank God that the Federal Air Marshal Program was taken out of TSA, although it is still a prisoner of the “SSM”.
17 posted on 01/28/2004 5:55:46 AM PST by GeauxMan ("Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Ben Franklin)
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To: *AirSec_List; *bang_list

19 posted on 01/28/2004 6:34:10 AM PST by Joe Brower ("What chance of survival does a culture have when its own elites actively seek its destruction?")
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To: aviator
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21 posted on 01/28/2004 6:41:52 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Main Street
This sad state of affairs is entirely predictable. The government has no interest whatsoever in doing anything at all that will decrease their power or authority in the slightest manner. They really don't give a damn about you are I because we're just sheep to be constantly sheared of our money so they can lord over us and keep us in our place.

If they were really interested in in actually doing something about airline safety, everyone on the plane would be armed. This, of course gives the willies to the bedwetters who thing that everyone around them is a potential homicidal maniac. It's all about control folks. Anything that empowers us 'little people' is a dead letter to them.

23 posted on 01/28/2004 7:38:05 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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"Concerning the fitness of those who are screened out, one FFDO candidate stated, "...the USAF trusted me for over 28 years to be responsible for several types of multi-million dollar jet fighters...The USAF considered me psychologically sound enough to be directly responsible for nuclear weapons...As a full Colonel and fighter wing commander I was responsible and accountable for leading and training (over 1000) warriors, maintaining F-16 fighters, and thousands of tons of sophisticated weapons. I find it ironic that I was responsible for...jet fighters and training...pilots, and yet a TSA psychologist has determined I am unreliable to carry a weapon in my own airliner..."(5)"

Indeed. Sounds like it isn't about security but bureaucracy and emotions. Feelings. If a pilot intends harm, he doesn't need a handgun, for God's sake.

34 posted on 01/28/2004 3:55:48 PM PST by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Main Street
I wish each commercial flight would indicate whether or not the cockpit crew is armed. As a consumer I would much prefer to take a flight with an armed crew.
38 posted on 01/28/2004 5:16:46 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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