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Bush Is Said to Seek More Money for Arts [$15 million to $20 million for NEA]
New York Times ^ | January 29, 2004 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 01/28/2004 8:29:35 PM PST by yonif

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1 posted on 01/28/2004 8:29:40 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
What an absolute waste. Reading this sickens me.
2 posted on 01/28/2004 8:32:38 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: yonif
Man, I don't know about you good folks, but Bush is driving me to drink.
3 posted on 01/28/2004 8:33:25 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: yonif
The OLD thread

go and tell them we have a new thread with the story!

4 posted on 01/28/2004 8:34:01 PM PST by GeronL (Two kinds of people in this country: Makers and Takers........ which are you?)
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To: yonif
I think Mrs. Bush believes that you lead by example...if the National Endowment starts to fund true art and not pornography, then perhaps it's setting a good example. At least, I think that is what the first lady has in mind...perhaps she is right.
5 posted on 01/28/2004 8:36:12 PM PST by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: yonif
AHCHOO!

There's your artwork. Where's my NEA grant?

You're welcome.

<|:)~

6 posted on 01/28/2004 8:36:30 PM PST by martin_fierro (Viking it. And liking it.)
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To: yonif
the agency also gives priority to projects that cater to "underserved populations," including members of minority groups in urban neighborhoods with high poverty rates.

Wow! In addition to being unconstitutional, its going to discriminate on the basis of race. Thanks Dubya, you dolt!

7 posted on 01/28/2004 8:37:03 PM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: yonif
Mr. Tancredo expressed dismay. "We are looking at record deficit and potential cuts in all kinds of programs," he said. "How can I tell constituents that I'll take money away from them to pay for somebody else's idea of good art? I have no more right to do that than to finance somebody else's ideas about religion."

Well done, Mr. Tancredo. At least someone in Congress is willing to speak up for their constituents, while the rest of the spineless critters wallow in pork fat.

8 posted on 01/28/2004 8:37:19 PM PST by browardchad
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To: TheAngryClam
Isn't this just special?
9 posted on 01/28/2004 8:37:29 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Keith
Glory for the State!! All hail the mighty State!!
10 posted on 01/28/2004 8:37:36 PM PST by GeronL (Two kinds of people in this country: Makers and Takers........ which are you?)
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To: yonif
Ugh
11 posted on 01/28/2004 8:38:47 PM PST by lepton
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To: yonif
Big mistake.
12 posted on 01/28/2004 8:39:25 PM PST by secret garden (Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
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To: KantianBurke; Travis McGee; mhking
affirmative action art!!??
13 posted on 01/28/2004 8:39:28 PM PST by GeronL (Two kinds of people in this country: Makers and Takers........ which are you?)
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To: yonif
I don't say this with malice, but this president is not well grounded in conservatism. I will probably vote for the guy later this year, but this just sickens me. If the arts are so damned important, why don't those who make trillions from the arts, pitch in?

Does Bush honestly think the NEA supporters are going to vote for him? This is just shocking, it's so ill advised. Why not increase the NPR funding at the same time? Yikes.
14 posted on 01/28/2004 8:41:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: yonif
This isn't surprisng. Conservatives generally support more government if they can control it. Same as Liberals.
15 posted on 01/28/2004 8:41:38 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Badray; conspiratoristo
ping
16 posted on 01/28/2004 8:42:05 PM PST by smokeyb
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To: DoughtyOne
"Why not increase the NPR funding at the same time?"

Don't give that simpleton any ideas please.
17 posted on 01/28/2004 8:42:10 PM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: yonif
Just incredible! He's walking into a defeat if he thinks he can keep trashing conservative principles like this. Why don't the Republican leaders have the fire in the belly that the Democrats have? Can you imagine ANY of the Democrats cutting taxes, passing pro-life bills, eliminating afirmative action, or being against homosexual "marriages"?

Why in the world do conservative "leaders" cave in and appease the liberals? Is there a stateman anywhere at the top of conservative politics?
18 posted on 01/28/2004 8:42:22 PM PST by laweeks (I)
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To: yonif
If paying for this comes with new rules establishing what is Art and more importantly, what AINT art, then go ahead.

If this means cutting off the radical left from the funds, in favor of a more balanced approach, so be it.

19 posted on 01/28/2004 8:43:09 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Representative Louise M. Slaughter, a New York Democrat who is co-chairwoman of the Congressional Arts Caucus, said she was delighted to learn of Mr. Bush's proposal.

"There's nothing in the world that helps economic development more than arts programs," Ms. Slaughter said. "It was foolish for Congress to choke them and starve them. We should cherish the people who can tell us who we are, where we came from and where we hope to go."

This attitude alone is reason enough to kill off the NEA. But no, we'll increase the deficit instead.

20 posted on 01/28/2004 8:43:30 PM PST by kristinn
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To: yonif
Bush is NO conservative. Today on ORielly's radio show he was talking about what appears to be the upcoming race between Kerry and Bush-Liberal vs. Conservative-I felt like calling him up and asking him which one is the conservative in that race. I'm starting to think that maybe as a conservative (libertarian-small "l") that I would not mind seeing Kerry win so that in '06 more of the country would finally put some real conservatives in the Congress. Done of course in order to stop the liberal agenda of Kerry-they sure as hell are not stopping the liberal agenda of GW Bush.
21 posted on 01/28/2004 8:43:35 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: laweeks
And people on this board are asking me Why I am now supporting the Constitution Party. Here is another reason.
22 posted on 01/28/2004 8:43:39 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Viking2002
"Man, I don't know about you good folks, but Bush is driving me to drink."

Hold on now. I'm sure that drink is one more freebie covered in any number of bills getting a budget increase and signed by the President...

Order an appetizer while you're at it -- trust me, that's covered too.

23 posted on 01/28/2004 8:44:10 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: yonif
where's all this money gonna come from?
24 posted on 01/28/2004 8:44:35 PM PST by PureSolace (I love freedom.)
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To: yonif
Representative Louise M. Slaughter, a New York Democrat who is co-chairwoman of the Congressional Arts Caucus, said she was delighted to learn of Mr. Bush's proposal.

It's all about gettin liberal pukes to like him, I guess.

Trying to be popular with these pinkos sure does run up our grandchildren's debt. I hope they have good jobs to pay for it all.

25 posted on 01/28/2004 8:44:42 PM PST by GhostofWCooper
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To: laweeks
Oh the horror. 5 million "wasted." That amount is spent by the feds every five minutes, maybe less. But we love getting off on irrelevant symbolic issues don't we? On to Mars.
26 posted on 01/28/2004 8:44:43 PM PST by Torie
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To: All
Seeing how this is from the New York Slimes, I'll wait for the real proposal if there even is one.
27 posted on 01/28/2004 8:45:20 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: yonif
From an economic point of view, it's a piddling amount, less than a drop in the bucket. But from a political point of view, it's totally stupid.
28 posted on 01/28/2004 8:45:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PureSolace
where's all this money gonna come from?


29 posted on 01/28/2004 8:46:10 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
I am trying to figure out why the Dems hate this guy ? He looks more like a RINO every day. C'mon GW, I thought you were on our side.
30 posted on 01/28/2004 8:46:25 PM PST by smokeyb
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31 posted on 01/28/2004 8:46:42 PM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: KantianBurke
Oops, LOL.
32 posted on 01/28/2004 8:46:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: yonif
You can't buy friends.

Despite lavishing compassion and grants on them, the Administration will mine as many votes from the leftist artsy-fartsy bloc as it will from the gimme-gimme immigrant bloc.

Nada.

33 posted on 01/28/2004 8:46:50 PM PST by MinuteGal (Register now for "FReeps Ahoy 3". Fun and fellowship with freepers from across the U.S.A !)
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To: yonif
I'm torn on this. On the one hand, I don't know why the government should dun taxpayers to fund the arts, and I agree with those who say that if there are enough people who want to watch ballet or operas or plays, then they should be able to pay their own way in the free market (and I put my money where my mouth is: I just bought season tickets to Theater Three's next season here in Dallas).

On the other hand, these very same people are the ones who have stuck me with huge tax bills to build several local gigantic sports arenas that I have never visited and will never visit, all so that sports fans can have a place to enjoy their preferred entertainment. That $20 million boost for the NEA wouldn't even make a down payment on some of these luxurious sports arenas.

I like theater and real music, and am bored out of my mind by sports, yet I'm told that taxes shouldn't support struggling arts companies, but they should support billionaire sports team owners and their millionaire players. How about a little intellectual consistency?

34 posted on 01/28/2004 8:47:03 PM PST by HHFi
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To: yonif
YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.... yes, this did receive an NEA grant...

http://www.gis.net/~scatt/artists_online/mapplethorpe/mapple_whip.jpeg


(DO *NOT* click on this link if you're at all squeamish...
35 posted on 01/28/2004 8:47:03 PM PST by ambrose
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To: PureSolace
Our pockets!
36 posted on 01/28/2004 8:47:16 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: martin_fierro
LOL

Bush is sort of okay on this war.

Other than that, he's a bolshevik.

Eliminate NEA and be done with it.
37 posted on 01/28/2004 8:47:35 PM PST by ZTedster
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To: yonif
It looks like he's trying to rub our noses in it. What utter stupidity.
38 posted on 01/28/2004 8:47:44 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: GeronL
Bush's Medicare DRug entitlemennts, Campaign finance reform, migrant worker garbage plan, Incresing funds to N.E.A, and any other liberal crap Bush does WILL ALL ADD UP TO HIS FATHERS TAX CUTS.
Bush has taught me that the Republican philosophy has become different that what Republican Politics are. This kind of stuff is making me sick. His liberal domestic party has gotten to the point where I can no longer defend him even when talking to other Republicans, nor do I want to.
BUsh, YOU NEED TO WAKE THE HELL UP!
39 posted on 01/28/2004 8:47:50 PM PST by inchworm
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To: martin_fierro
LOL
40 posted on 01/28/2004 8:48:21 PM PST by F16Fighter
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U.S. to help fund immigrant care [Hospitals who treat illegal immigrants will get $1B]
41 posted on 01/28/2004 8:48:48 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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42 posted on 01/28/2004 8:49:08 PM PST by ambrose
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To: yonif
I remember once, long, long time ago, when the Republicans actually talked about getting rid of the NEA. Course, that was a long itme ago ... and it's not like we have anything better to do with the money.
43 posted on 01/28/2004 8:50:15 PM PST by templar
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To: ambrose
Yeah, I know. Some people have REAL short memories.
44 posted on 01/28/2004 8:50:43 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: yonif
for later
45 posted on 01/28/2004 8:51:31 PM PST by luckydevi
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To: yonif
Remember when the Republicans used to be the party of small government and there was talk about eliminating the NEA?
46 posted on 01/28/2004 8:51:37 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Cicero
If I remember correctly and I just may be wrong about this, some of the money the NEA gets, goes into music appreciation and art classes in public schools. While a goodly part of the monies spent by the NEA, is spent on utter garbage, this part isn't. It's used to take kids to see operas,on field trips to museums, and to bring fine classical musicians to schools, where most of the children would never be exposed, at all, to this stuff.
47 posted on 01/28/2004 8:51:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: yonif
for later
48 posted on 01/28/2004 8:53:04 PM PST by luckydevi
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To: nopardons
Education isn't the Federal government's job. Try again.
49 posted on 01/28/2004 8:53:12 PM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: DoughtyOne
Bush thinks triangulating and moving the left is going to be successful strategy. It isn't for a Republicans. Democrats have to do that. All doing this does for a Republican is alienate the base and cost the Republicans votes.

Bush is just like his daddy. He is clueless. Without a motivated base, he might just find a way to lose.

50 posted on 01/28/2004 8:54:18 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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