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Tancredo Warns the Social Security System Endangered by Bush’s "Totalization Agreement" with Mexico
Congressman Tom Tancredo ^

Posted on 01/29/2004 5:46:16 AM PST by Happy2BMe

U.S. House of Representatives SealFrom the Office of
Congressman Tom Tancredo

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 09, 2004

Tancredo Warns that the Social Security System Is Endangered by Bush’s Proposed "Totalization Agreement" with Mexico

A September 2003 GAO Report warns that the cost of the proposed agreement cannot be reliably estimated because the number of eligible Mexican workers in unknown and may number in the millions.

WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman Tom Tancredo (CO-06) today criticized President Bush’s proposal for allowing both legal and illegal Mexican workers to reclaim their Social Security contributions when they reach retirement age. "The President’s proposal bears no resemblance to the other agreements we already have with 20 other countries," said Tancredo. "Bringing illegal Mexican workers into the Social Security System not only rewards illegal behavior, it also further endangers the fiscal health of our Social Security System."

"The President’s proposal for a "Totalization Agreement" with Mexico was included in the Administration’s proposals released on Wednesday, but few in the media have reported on the ramifications of that proposal," said Tancredo. "The American public needs to understand how this plan might impact an already fragile Social Security System."

"We do have agreements with 20 other countries, agreements which allow foreign citizens who have worked in the United States to reclaim their Social Security contributions when they retire in their home countries," Tancredo noted. "American citizens benefit from these agreements because the agreements are reciprocal."

But the proposed agreement with Mexico is radically different from earlier agreements, Tancredo noted. By including illegal workers in the program the costs will skyrocket.

"Including illegal Mexican workers in our Social Security System will add untold billions of dollars in future liabilities. The September 2003 GAO Report basically says the cost estimates being used by the Treasury Department and the Social Security Administration are not founded in actuarial realities. Among the many questions raised by the GAO, most challenge the adequacy or the SSA’s analysis of future costs.

The cost of a totalization agreement with Mexico is highly uncertain. [ p. 2]

Mexican citizens with fewer than 40 coverage credits[calendar quarters of active employment]will be permitted to combine their annual earnings under their home country’s social security program with their annual earnings under the U.S. Social Security program to meet the 40-credit requirement...A Mexican citizen need work in the U.S. only six quarters to qualify for the program. [p. 8]

An agreement with Mexico...represents unique and difficult challenges for SSA because so little is known about the size, work history, earnings, and dependents of the unauthorized Mexican population... An agreement with Mexico [is] potentially far more costly than any other. [pp. 14-15]

Poor data undermine the reliability of SSA’s cost estimate. [p.9]

The reliability and integrity of Mexican government data on birth, work history and retirement contributions are open to question because of poor internal controls within the Mexican government. [pp. 6-7]

"Adding Mexico to the list of countries with which we have reciprocal social security agreements makes no sense unless the primary goal is to encourage more illegal workers to enter the U.S. workforce," said Tancredo. "I think not only our senior citizens but all who care about the fiscal health of the Social Security System will have serious objections to this plan."

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Social Security.
1 posted on 01/29/2004 5:46:25 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
BUMP
2 posted on 01/29/2004 5:48:23 AM PST by Dante3
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To: keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; Capitalist Eric; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; ...
""Including illegal Mexican workers in our Social Security System will add untold billions of dollars in future liabilities. The September 2003 GAO Report basically says the cost estimates being used by the Treasury Department and the Social Security Administration are not founded in actuarial realities. Among the many questions raised by the GAO, most challenge the adequacy or the SSA’s analysis of future costs."

I don't like this. Initially, Bush balked at endorsing concurrent receipt benefits for disabled U.S. military veterans because it would cost too much.

Where is the same concern when it comes to granting social security benefits to illegal migrants from another country?

3 posted on 01/29/2004 5:51:08 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
I just might go fishing in the next presidential election and just forget to vote...
4 posted on 01/29/2004 5:55:24 AM PST by 2banana
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To: 2banana
Doesn't make for much motivation, does it, to cruise on over the polls, doesn't it? Maybe there is a Congressional election featuring a patriotic, pro-legal immigration Conservative, that might at least get you out to vote in November.
5 posted on 01/29/2004 6:07:44 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law.)
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To: Dante3; 2banana
"According to Rep. Clay Shaw, R-Fla., chairman of the House Ways and Means subcommittee on Social Security, benefits paid to retirees will exceed revenues in just 15 years. The pay-as-you-go system could go belly up as early as 2030.

" These projections don't take into account the economic impact of the Bush proposal, which would allow untold millions of illegal aliens from Mexico to collect full cash benefits for themselves and their families from their home country -- without having to work the required number of years that law-abiding American citizens must work to be eligible for payouts."

Thefts of Social Security ID rising fast

A Life Destroyed by Those Who 'Only Come Here to Work' (MUST READ)

Stop the Mexican Raid on Our Social Security and the Mexican "ID" Card

SOCIAL SECURITY: FRAUDS WALK OUT THE DOOR

Return of the Great Social Security Giveaway

Michelle Malkin: The criminal raid on Social Security

Ron Paul - Return of the Great Social Security Giveaway

Stop the Mexican Raid on Our Social Security and the Mexican "ID" Card


6 posted on 01/29/2004 6:07:44 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: 2banana
Why not try a write-in for Tancredo or Paul. Perhaps even vote for the Constitution Party candidate.
7 posted on 01/29/2004 6:09:35 AM PST by Dixielander
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To: Happy2BMe
Tancredo says that any immigration reform bill that comes out of Congress will be worse than Bush's plan.
8 posted on 01/29/2004 6:10:33 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: 2banana
President Kerry will thank you. (I foolishly voted for Perot and helped Bill Clinton become President in 1992. Never again will I make that mistake!)
9 posted on 01/29/2004 6:11:24 AM PST by Moonmad27
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To: Dixielander
I visited the Constitution party website, they sound like a bunch of blowhards who have no room in their party for people who don't believe that Jeses died for their sins. I was pretty turned off.
10 posted on 01/29/2004 6:17:04 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Major Industrial Nations Unprepared for Coming Population Aging and Labour Shortage

11 posted on 01/29/2004 6:17:36 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
I wouldn't worry about social security.

If the 10 to 20 million illegals get the Shamnesty deal, each will get to bring in five more. That's fifty to one hundred million thirdworlders dropped on us in a year or two, at most.

There's no surviving that.
12 posted on 01/29/2004 6:24:27 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Moonmad27
President Kerry will thank you.

What is the difference? At least when we had Clinton the Republicans had something of a backbone...

13 posted on 01/29/2004 6:26:02 AM PST by 2banana
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To: 2banana; Moonmad27
Liberalism is not sitting pretty with George Bush . .

"What is the difference? At least when we had Clinton the Republicans had something of a backbone..."

 
BUDGET INCREASE FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS
 

14 posted on 01/29/2004 6:33:01 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
".....there's a high probability that entitlement programs in 20 years will be financed by hispanics for the benefit of whites."
15 posted on 01/29/2004 6:34:58 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Moonmad27
I foolishly voted for Perot and helped Bill Clinton become President in 1992

I did the same thing, you weren't the only one. So did my parents (lifelong Republicans).

LQ

16 posted on 01/29/2004 6:46:37 AM PST by LizardQueen
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To: Happy2BMe
Bush balked at endorsing concurrent receipt benefits for disabled U.S. military veterans because it would cost too much. Where is the same concern when it comes to granting social security benefits to illegal migrants from another country?

Don't worry about it. It the (occasional) conservative Rhetoric that counts, not the actions.

17 posted on 01/29/2004 6:47:43 AM PST by templar
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To: Ben Ficklin
The article you referenced was written prior to the granting of amnesty for the huge population of illegal migrant workers. It does not take that into account the permanently damaging precedent such an amnesty will have on causing an even greater mass-migration of people from all over South America, thus further eroding an already weakened national retirement program.

The system will overload and self-destruct. Something of this scale has to have been planned - intentional.

It's no mistake any of this is happening.

18 posted on 01/29/2004 6:48:37 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
Tancredo is about the only voice of sanity left in D.C.
19 posted on 01/29/2004 6:53:19 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Happy2BMe
Tancredo BUMP.
20 posted on 01/29/2004 6:56:29 AM PST by reelfoot
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