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The Girls Next Door (Mexico-USA Sex Slave Trade)
New York Times Magazine ^ | January 25, 2004 | PETER LANDESMAN

Posted on 01/31/2004 9:13:12 PM PST by Travis McGee

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To: Travis McGee
No, the FBI will not investigate. Illegal aliens are protected,

More than that I think the Mexican oligarchs -- the elite class of Mexico is protected. Our government full well knows the extent of the corruption in that country, but chooses to put them on the same level as countries like Canada and is working on a merging of the two cultures.

61 posted on 02/01/2004 12:27:45 AM PST by FITZ
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To: majhenrywest
I wonder why they weren't charged with slavery. Isn't there a law on the books for that?
62 posted on 02/01/2004 12:32:04 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: FITZ
I absolutley believe all your claims and the stats you cite.

My suspicions remain that the NYT reporter cut corners on this story. If he did so, he took legitimate concern away from the victims of sexual exploitation in order to exaggerate the story in order to bring greater attention to his "journalism skills" rather than his subject.

63 posted on 02/01/2004 12:34:52 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
We've had some of these sex-slave rings discovered in the city I live near, not to the same degree because this is the border and the customers can easily cross the border and use the prostitutes there but you see very young girls selling themselves on the streets in Mexico, I'm sure many are inside the brothels.

But as far as the quotes --- for one they were subject to translation from Spanish to English --- I wouldn't bet they were necessarily exact translations. Some of these prostitutes may have been doing the same work in Mexico, were promised "better" jobs to come to the USA and find themselves in the same spot and are complaining.
64 posted on 02/01/2004 12:41:28 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Travis McGee
Another reason why I will never travel to Mexico (or any other 3rd world American hating country). They are all corrupt. Why in the heck should I give those ****ards my money!!

This made me ill. It also made me want to lock and load and head for the border. "I don't need no freekin' license to blow your brains out!" [even though I got one]

65 posted on 02/01/2004 12:45:21 AM PST by Indie (Never trust your adversary.)
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To: Travis McGee
One thing that it clearly illustrates is the level of government corruption, primarily in Mexico, but in other countries as well.

Something that I've thought for some time is that we need to realize just how important it is to have people in government who are not corrupt. Since we give these people the ability to decide and do things that can have major impact over our property, freedom, and lives, they must never be corrupt. This article shows what happens when that corruption takes control.

That's why I've long believed that corruption in government, including voter fraud, should be a capital crime, punnishable by death.

Mark
66 posted on 02/01/2004 1:27:31 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Travis McGee
Most big cities in the USA have "sanctuary laws" that forbid cops to even question illegals. That provides them all the security they need to run brothels full of young sex slaves with no worries.

This is something that I've long wondered about... Why is it that in nearly every other aspect, federal law trumps state and local laws. After all immigration laws and jurisdiction is something that I believe that the Constitution DOES grant to the federal government.

While enforcing federal law is outside the jurisdiction of state and local LE, isn't it incumbant on those LE officials (I will not blame the officers, since their superiors are the ones who make the policy, and if the officers don't follow it, will be sanctioned) to follow the laws of the country?

Although there's no way that it would ever happen, if the federal government wanted immigration laws to be upheld, all they have to do is what the feds did to the states about blood alcohol levels. "If you want federal funds, you will do what we say... Report illegal aliens." Simple... If you don't come up with a policy to follow the law, the feds cut off funds to cities and states.

Mark

67 posted on 02/01/2004 1:35:31 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Travis McGee
''But their idea of prostitution is 'Pretty Woman,' which is one of the most popular films in Ukraine and Russia. They're thinking, This may not be so bad.''

Julia Roberts, Richard Gere...your legacy lives on.

69 posted on 02/01/2004 2:06:00 AM PST by vikingchick
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To: Travis McGee
This story is the subject of a Jayson Blair type of investigation. It has been proven to have many holes in it and the people described may not be real. This hoax story was posted yesterday.
70 posted on 02/01/2004 4:32:01 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: Travis McGee
On the other hand, I *want* to be a sex slave, but I can't find the right chick.
71 posted on 02/01/2004 4:34:20 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Travis McGee
Used, day and night, to satisfy the depraved sexual urges of a young, pretty woman.

(back of hand to forehead) O! the inhumanity of it all!

72 posted on 02/01/2004 4:35:36 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Travis McGee
Well--the awful truth is that this sort of sordid behavior has gone on since probably the beginning of time. There have certainly been documented cases of this kind of activity right here in the good ole USA that did not involve aliens--illegal or otherwise. Sad to say, but red blooded Americans are capable of doing this, and have in the past and will continue to do so in the future.

Who knows how wide-spread it is? Thanks goodness, it seems to be a rare event--but then, how much of it is never discovered?

Of course, our "open borders" make it much more prevalent, apparently. May everyone ever participating in any way with this heinous activity rot in hell for all eternity! And may these pitiful victims of these people find justice and everlasting peace.

73 posted on 02/01/2004 6:52:37 AM PST by basil (pro gun Mother's Day 2004! www.2asisters.org)
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To: MarkL; archy
Clearly, the feds are happy with the open-borders status quo. If they wanted to, they could shut the border in a week, and begin enforcing on-the-books employment laws.

If the INS was run like the ATF, every illegal alien in America would be arrested, deported or shot in six months.

To enforce gun laws, they will spend millions investigating accidental paper documentation technical violations, and put people away for years on flimsy pretexts. For immigration violations, they just look the othe way, even as violent felons return again and again.

I just want a list of the laws that "really count," and a list of the laws I can ignore.

This selective enforcement is one more source of fuel under the American pressure cooker, which will lead eventually to an explosion or even to CW2.

74 posted on 02/01/2004 9:32:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: basil
Well the open borders policy certainly exacerbates all types of organized criminal activity, because the "hands off illegals" sanctuary policy of our major cities allows them to operate freely without investigation, and also allows the principals to skip back and forth to avoid prosecution when the heat is too high. There are something like 300 murderers of Americans living freely in Mexico today, thumbing their nose at the law and their victims. Why worry about any American laws, when you know that a fast run for the border is all it takes to avoid paying for your crimes if worst comest to worst?
75 posted on 02/01/2004 9:36:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GeronL
Try this quote:

"Donna M. Hughes, a professor of women's studies at the University of Rhode Island and an expert on sex trafficking, says that prostitution barely existed 12 years ago in the Soviet Union. 'It was suppressed by political structures. All the women had jobs.' But in the first years after the collapse of Soviet Communism, poverty in the former Soviet states soared. Young women -- many of them college-educated and married -- became easy believers in Hollywood-generated images of swaying palm trees in L.A."

Yes, the collapse of the USSR was bad for women because before the collapse there were hardly any prostitutes at all in the USSR -- "All the women had jobs."

Hughes has obviously never read the Gulag Archipelago. Not surprising that someone this clueless is employed by a University.
76 posted on 02/01/2004 10:04:43 AM PST by Gothmog
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To: Travis McGee
You know, Travis, one of the downsides of getting older is watching humanity decline. There is so much meaness in this world. I'm sure it has been ever thus, but as the population grows, horrendous crime seems to grow with it.
77 posted on 02/01/2004 10:55:55 AM PST by basil (pro gun Mother's Day 2004! www.2asisters.org)
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To: Travis McGee; FITZ
56 - "Great, and we're importing this infection of corruption into our nation with the millions of criminal invaders, thanks to our Open Borders Elites."

I realize that this is not politically correct, however, think about it - the corruption lies with the culture which is based on religion.

So - American culture is based on WASP culture - protestant - where you do bad things/ commit a sin/ etc; you are damned to eternal punishment in hell.

Mexican - and other Catholic cultures - you commit a crime/sin you confess to the priest and he 'forgives' you - 'say 3 hail mary's' and everything will be all right. This forms habits of 'acceptance' of corruption, developing a culture of 'no responsibility', and 'no punishment'.

Open borders, importing a culture of corruption is the worst thing about what is happening with the invasion of illegal immigrants. And it goes hand in hand with the liberal philosophy of condemning 'religion' (must not say protestant - just christian - to be PC).

Just look at what has happened in cultures where Catholicism has dominated - all are relatively poor and corrupt.
78 posted on 02/01/2004 11:32:44 AM PST by XBob
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To: basil
77-"as the population grows, horrendous crime seems to grow with it."

so true
79 posted on 02/01/2004 11:34:39 AM PST by XBob
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To: MarkL
66- this so good it deserves reposting:

"One thing that it clearly illustrates is the level of government corruption, primarily in Mexico, but in other countries as well.

Something that I've thought for some time is that we need to realize just how important it is to have people in government who are not corrupt. Since we give these people the ability to decide and do things that can have major impact over our property, freedom, and lives, they must never be corrupt. This article shows what happens when that corruption takes control.

That's why I've long believed that corruption in government, including voter fraud, should be a capital crime, punnishable by death. "
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When corruption is 'accepted' it becomes a way of life and and stains/screws up a whole culture, from the tiniest to the highest level.
80 posted on 02/01/2004 11:45:20 AM PST by XBob
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