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The Communists Can Count on Kerry
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 2/02/04 | Don Feder

Posted on 02/02/2004 1:40:39 AM PST by kattracks

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To: kattracks
But, wait, they weren’t his medals, he latter revealed, but someone else’s who couldn’t make it to the protest.

So now we have two distinctly different stories from Kerry about the medals.

Just a week or two ago, Kerry's spokesman said on FNC that Kerry didn't actually throw his medals over the fence. He said that Kerry removed his medals from the ribbons and threw only the ribbons over the fence.

21 posted on 02/02/2004 5:41:19 AM PST by alnick (A vote for anyone but George W. Bush for president in 2004 is a vote to strengthen Al Qaeda.)
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To: alnick
no no no...that was THE story (i.e., ribbons/medals) for that week...lol I'm sure the media will work with him closely to determine which story will actually work better with middle America...stay tuned...the media is doing such a good job convincing Americans that this candidate is the ONE who can beat that "mean ole Bush who has taken away "our" country"....remember that he was almost a figment of our imagination three weeks before Iowa and now he is beating President Bush in the polls...now I, for one, am very impressed with the all powerful MEDIA! /sarcasm off
22 posted on 02/02/2004 6:15:01 AM PST by ozzysmom
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To: kattracks
I think Feder wants us (outside of Mass, where many know this) to know the real Kerry. A rant? - maybe, but perhaps he's tired of people praising Kerry without knowing the real Kerry.

I suspect that Kerry and many vets have or have had some PTSD issues, but for me, he's more of a Clinton-esque sociopath, being all things to all people if it gets him elected. I think he's a Kennedy wannabe.

Years ago when he married Theresa a lot of this came out at the time, including his presidential ambitions, because here in western PA the untimely death of Heinz and the surprising wedding not long after of Theresa and Kerry was well documented locally and viewed with suspicion by some who thought Kerry saw dollar signs and took advantage of a grieving widow. The Kohn/Kerry name change came up with the suggestion that the grandparents wanted to Kennedy-ize themselves to get in on that action. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree for John F. Kerry. It seems he likes to be thought of as a Kennedy type candidate and beams at the comparisons to JFK. I think, despite his war service, that he is a commie at heart and I shudder to think he is the current dem frontrunner. Look what he's done for Mass. I think that's what Feder is trying to say.

23 posted on 02/02/2004 7:19:54 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: kattracks
Only if the American people have a complete and total memory failure

Do you mean like forgetting that Clinton advocated regime change in Iraq, and as well thought Iraq had WMDs?

24 posted on 02/02/2004 7:22:52 AM PST by lepton
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To: kattracks
Ummmm let take a guess ... Mr. Feder REALLY doesn't like Kerry???
25 posted on 02/02/2004 7:24:26 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: My Dog Likes Me
PTSD? Why then did he speak against the War before he left to serve?
A lot of his classmates spoke of his intense political ambitions during his time at Yale.
Kerry '66: 'He was going to be president'
A sense of duty
In March 1965, as the war in Vietnam continued to escalate, Kerry won the Ten Eyck prize as the best orator in the junior class for a speech that criticized U.S foreign policy as arrogant and unrealistic.
"It is the specter of Western imperialism that causes more fear among Africans and Asians than communism, and thus it is self-defeating," Kerry said in his speech. "We have grossly overextended ourselves in areas where we have no vital primary interest."
The next year, Kerry discarded his original Class Day oration -- which had already been published in the Yale Banner -- for a new address echoing many of the sentiments of his prize-winning speech. In a speech that was unusually political for a Class Oration, he criticized the United States for intervening in Asian affairs and isolating itself from the world community.
"I think he was ahead of his time," Smith said about Kerry's attitude towards Vietnam. "I think he felt that the war was much more controversial at an earlier stage than anybody else."
But even before delivering his oration, Kerry had enlisted in the U.S. Navy. Despite his public misgivings about Vietnam, Kerry was preparing to enter the military soon after commencement.
While Kerry criticized the war and its goals, he was committed in his decision to serve. In contrast to Yale students two or three years later who more frequently tried to avoid the service at all costs, many members of the Class of '66 volunteered, Smith said.
"I was very proud of my decision to go into the Navy and I still am," Kerry said. "But keep in mind, when I joined the Navy, the first draft card hadn't been burned. Vietnam was nebulous. It wasn't yet the war it would become."
By volunteering, students could avoid the draft and enter the officer corps. But for the Class of '66, graduate school deferments were still available. If Kerry had not wanted to serve, he could have entered law school immediately after graduation.

It would appear that his time in the service was calculated in order to use it just as he is doing now.
26 posted on 02/02/2004 7:45:53 AM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: kattracks
He’s an opportunistic, back-stabber who never met a commie he didn’t like.

My hands are like ice. I have a sinking feeling that 49-51% of the voting public are the same way. Hope I'm wrong.

27 posted on 02/02/2004 8:43:51 AM PST by wizardoz ("Crikey! I've lost my mojo!")
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To: TheStickman
ping
28 posted on 02/02/2004 6:58:10 PM PST by visualops (Liberty is both the plan of Heaven for humanity, and the best hope for progress here on Earth-G.W.B.)
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To: armymarinemom; cajungirl; Jaxter; MEG33; conservatism_IS_compassion
Hey! I voted for Gov. Weld over Kerry when Weld ran for Kerry's senate seat years ago. I'm just trying to be objective.

For a young Kerry to disagree with the U.S. policy in Vietnam, but STILL join the Navy right out of Yale says something important about his character. Please remember the phrase "My country, right or wrong.." He didn't go to grad school or otherwise run.

As for the Purple Hearts, I recall a line in Lt Col David Hackworth's book "About Face." I don't have it in front of me, but Hack wrote that after he received his third PH, the Army wanted to reassign him. This was apparently DoD policy at the time. Hack managed to avoid reassignment somehow, but it wasn't easy. And he was a field grade officer at the time. A junior officer like Kerry wouldn't really have a choice but to leave, as per policy.

I, like many of you, find it hard to put Kerry in a comfortable HE HATE ME category, like I could Clinton (with his "I loath the military" letter to a ROTC officer).

I simply cannot figure out John Forbes Kerry-Kohn. I do know that he is a war hero. And you can't take that away from him.

29 posted on 02/02/2004 9:57:54 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: My Dog Likes Me
If you don't "get" Kerry by now you probably never will. What he did after his service is not the actions of a man fit for commander of our armed services. Our military had a hard time living through the Clinton years and it sure doen't deserve the abuse that kerry would heap upon it.
30 posted on 02/02/2004 10:11:42 PM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Timothy Mc Veigh was a soldier who fought in Desert 1.
31 posted on 02/02/2004 10:46:32 PM PST by MEG33 (God bless our armed forces)
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To: MEG33
Desert Storm
32 posted on 02/02/2004 10:47:04 PM PST by MEG33 (God bless our armed forces)
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To: fortunecookie
A rant? - maybe, but perhaps he's tired of people praising Kerry without knowing the real Kerry.

Maybe a little of both?

33 posted on 02/02/2004 10:49:08 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Read the history.Kerry did ask to be released early.
34 posted on 02/02/2004 10:50:53 PM PST by MEG33 (God bless our armed forces)
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To: MEG33
And Lee Harvey Oswald was a former United States Marine.
35 posted on 02/02/2004 11:10:59 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Real heroes don't go around bragging about their war record. Kerry reminds me of those pathetic creeps that hang around the Wall wearing old fatigues with medals all over them. Most of them were never in the military, let alone Vietnam. Kerry didn't become antiwar until long after he returned early (4 months) from Vietnam. He requested that he be sent home early after receiving 3 very minor wounds, two of which could have easily been self afflicted. I say again, the man is scum.
36 posted on 02/03/2004 3:11:10 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: Jaxter
To clarify my previous post: He didn't return 4 months early, he had a grand total of 4 months in-country.
37 posted on 02/03/2004 3:13:17 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: armymarinemom; My Dog Likes Me
It would appear that his time in the service was calculated in order to use it just as he is doing now.
I think you stopped reading that article a little too soon:
Yet for a class that grew up in the wake of World War II and the Korean War, military service seemed a patriotic duty that few of Kerry's classmates questioned despite growing ambivalence concerning the war itself, said his classmate Peter Day '66.

"There was a much larger sense of obligation, that it was your turn just as the generations before had done it," Day said.

So when William Bundy -- assistant secretary of state and uncle of Harvey Bundy -- visited Kerry and his suitemates and said the country needed them to enlist in the officer corps, Kerry listened. "I think that -- it would have been almost five times harder for him not to have gone than to go," Smith said. "The predilection of our class was much more old-school."

We have to treat history with respect. Kerry's problem then was that he was a Kennedy Democrat, and Kennedy and Johnson had transformed Vietnam from a sideshow into a full-blown American commitment of half a million men--an indefinite commitment not to victory but to a draw. Kerry's failure of vision was not in seeing that Vietnam was FUBAR--he was correct in that assessment--but in his elitism.

Kerry's failure of vision was that he could more easily reject the things you and I love about Ronald Reagan than he could entertain the idea that "great" Democrats like Kennedy and Johnson were actually incompetent.

Kerry's failure was Kennedy's failure--they are one and the same. And we always knew that eventually we would have to face down the Kennedy myth once and for all. The tragedy is that George H. Bush was not up for that game; had he been a full-blown Reaganite he would have been a two-term president and would have let the air out of the Kennedy mystique once and for all.

38 posted on 02/03/2004 5:58:33 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Mo1
Yeah, probably both rant and rave. But useful info that I'm sure Kerry hopes people will forget, and many dedicated Dems will forget even if they disagreed with him in the past. Blind sheeple.
39 posted on 02/03/2004 7:08:08 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: wizardoz
I have that same creepy feeling. I fear a slim majority will feel that way. And forget or even admire how he 'socialized' Massachusetts. People seem to like that he is (by his own intentional design) Kennedy-esque. Another perfect chameleon with commie tendencies to be the Dems best hope. Barf. Who will his running mate be...? (Iciness spreading...)
40 posted on 02/03/2004 7:11:59 AM PST by fortunecookie
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