Peterson attorneys take new local poll

The Oakland Tribune ^ | Feb 4 2004 | Jason Dearen

[Freedom2specul8]

DA, we were like whoa....great idea! However, the FBI said it didn't help them because they can't convict any of the folks listed on the website. (????) I don't understand that..since I know for a fact that trained law enforcement personnel do the exact same thing.

I'm going to write this carefully. The website calls them wannabe-pedophiles. The reporter was awesome! He knocked on the doors of the guys who ***supposedly*** thought they were talking to 14yr olds..and had them on camera. No, we didn't get a good look at their face..but hey, the pics of some of them are already on the website.

[Freedom2specul8]

whoops..typed too fast.. "I don't understand that..since I know for a fact that trained law enforcement personnel do the exact same thing on their own time"..to catch the pedophiles. There's a cop north of kcmo who was profiled in the local media for doing just that..in his spare time.

[Freedom2specul8]

See post #78 ...

[Velveeta]

Thanks for the link! Anything that might help get perverts off the streets is terrific, in my book.

[Freedom2specul8]

You're welcome.. I'm reading the frequently asked questions page, and they say there are a few local law enforcement agencies who are utlizing their info. Interesting stuff..

[Devil_Anse]

I'm kind of guessing, but I think I know why the FBI says they can't convict these guys for what the guys have done so far. A federal sting for this sort of thing will carry the whole thing just far enough to get the guy where he has gone past the point of trawling for kids, right up to the point where he meets the minor somewhere. I don't think these guys were taken that far into the game b/f the people from the website "busted" them.

It's sort of analagous to how they catch shoplifters. Suppose I see a woman drop some valuable object into her purse. Theoretically, she could still be going to pay for that object upon exiting the store. It's when they go past the cash registers w/o paying for it, and out of the store, that security will finally jump the shoplifters.

In prostitution stings, the cop will go as far as getting to the hotel room (or whatever) and I recall the cops in New Orleans used to actually get to the point where the prostitute was disrobing and beginning the act, and then they'd give the signal, and their cohorts would come in and make the arrest. (There was one cop who didn't give the signal just as the prostitute was beginning the act. He would let her go through with it, THEN she would be arrested. When the DA's office found out he was doing this, all the cases he'd made had to be thrown out and nol prossed.)

[onyx]

Excellent post, Kim. Thank you for this important ping.

Anything, and I mean anything, that helps get these cretins off the streets has my support. They cannot be cured, so they must be removed from society. ALL of them.

[Freedom2specul8]

Oynx, you're welcome. anything to pass along info to help get the cretins to stop too! I say, pass the link to everyone on your email lists.

((I just looked up a few of the folks who got caught in our area..and I'm gonna puke.. ))

DA:I think you hit the nail on the head. There is one guy, who sent a video clip of himself to who he thought was a 14yr old... it was x-rated. Maybe the local cops can do something...

[Yaelle]

Eechgggchggghghh.... I want to take a shower and chew one of those toilet bleach tablets.... That stuff is so sick. Yes, there are lots of people who prey on pre-teens, how well I know it. I am glad these folks are being found out.

I remember in the 80s seeing a German documentary on Swiss TV about international pedophiles that literally had me falling off the couch in utter shock and horror. There were so many parts that blew my mind, but the worst was an actual taped call between a "child dealer" in New York and a rich pedophile in Italy. The Italian asked how much for a girl, and got a price from the NY'er, and then asked for a really young girl, like 4-6, and got a higher price. "Can I hurt her?" was his next question. I forget what the dealer said after that, but after that the Italian asked "Can I kill her?" and the talkative salesman in NY paused. "Well, that would be extra.... getting rid of the body and all..." True evil lurks among us.

[Jackie-O]

Note to self...save link at post 78 to favorites when you get home.
Thanks for the link Kim!!

[onyx]

The last time I looked, we could access a map here (San Diego) with dots that signified the residences of known (read: convicted and paroled) pedophiles and sex offenders.

I looked at my neighborhood and whata ya know? All the dots were either next to schools, bars and parks or within a two block distance! Outrageous.

[blondee123]

Geragos seems to think this trial is a traveling circus!

And, he (Geragos) is the head CLOWN~

[drjulie]

I haven't seen this one here yet. From Rickamorti1.


NE: IN-LAWS SLUG IT OUT

BY DON GENTILE, DAVID WRIGHT AND CHARLIE MONTGOMERY



SYNOPSIS

PICTURES: Scott and Laci's Mom comforting each other early in the case

When Laci Peterson died, so did the friendship that once existed between her parents and her in-laws.

Three weeks after Laci's disappearance, the families were stunned to learn that her husband Scott had been cheating on her.

Afterwards, Scott's Mom, Jackie, talked with Laci's Mom, Sharon Rocha. Scott's dad Lee had words with Laci's stepfather Ron Granski.

But the phone conversations were strained and filled with heartache.

"Jackie told Sharon that her family was thinking about the Rochas every day and praying for Laci's safe return," said an insider.

"She said the Peterson's would do everything they could to help." "Then she added that she thought it was horrible that detectives had shown the families photos of Scott with his mistress, Amber Frey."

Sharon completely disagreed. She told Jackie the police had done the absolute right thing in revealing the affair after learning the NE was about to publish an exclusive on Scott's cheating ways.

Jackie weakly tried to defend her son, telling Sharon that Scott's fooling around was probably just a one-night stand. She said he must have been "drunk or something," according to an insider.

Sharon told Jackie that simply wasn't true. Scott had finally admitted in interviews that he was having an affair. He never said it was just a one-night stand. And angry Sharon told Jackie she knew Scott was contacting Amber after Laci disappeared, said the insider.

Sharon then asked Jackie if she thought Laci showed any signs of unhappiness at her baby shower, which they both attended, because Scott said in interviews he told Laci about the affair and she was OK with it.

"Jackie had to agree that everything seemed normal between ," said the insider. "But she did point out that Laci mentioned something about her and Scott getting separate beds."

"The comment meant nothing," Sharon fired back. Laci had told her she was finding it difficult to sleep during her pregnancy and thought she was keeping Scott awake.

"Sharon told Jackie that Laci had even offered to sleep on the sofa, but Scott didn't want her to do that," said the insider.

Ron Granski's phone call to Lee Peterson took place just after the NE broke the story about Scott's affair last year.

"Ron told Lee that requests for interviews with his family were pouring in from media outlets which had just learned of the NE scoop", said the insider.

Lee tried to defend his son. He told Ron that he was "willing to bet" his life that Scott had nothing to do with Laci's disappearance. According to the insider, Ron shot back: "I'm not."

Those were the last words the couples ever spoke to each other.

Weeks later, after the Peterson's attempted to talk with Laci's family again, the Rochas had a lawyer warn them that any further contact should be made through their attorney.

[drjulie]

I think the media has done this type of thing in the past to catch men soliciting prostitutes. Some quit because of the public humiliation. Maybe this will stop some or at least make people aware of who is a threat.

[drjulie]

Assuming this story is true....

"Then she added that she thought it was horrible that detectives had shown the families photos of Scott with his mistress, Amber Frey."

She's upset because the detectives showed the Rochas a picture of Scott & Amber. Shouldn't she be upset at Scott for having an affair?

[drjulie]

"Jackie weakly tried to defend her son, telling Sharon that Scott's fooling around was probably just a one-night stand. She said he must have been "drunk or something," according to an insider."

Oh what a comfort! I'm sure this made Sharon feel much better.

[Devil_Anse]

Thanks!

Jackie P. must sure have sounded lame when she tried to excuse Scott's womanizing by saying he must have been drunk. Kind of like saying "He would NEVER use illicit drugs! He's too busy drinking to excess!"

[Devil_Anse]

It's nothing but slavery! Even worse, when they kill the slave!

Of course there is a special place in hell for the parent who willingly places their child in that trade. But I think the majority of the children who are taken into that must be those who have little or no home to begin with. I wish I knew how to assure more children of a home. It wouldn't have to be anywhere near a perfect home--just a couple of adults, good or bad, who would shoot anyone who tried to do something like that to their child.

[Devil_Anse]

And remember, those are only the convicted ones. Whether they've been convicted or not, they always manage to insinuate themselves into a place where there are children. I think they are very good at doing this.

[Devil_Anse]

Probably in Jackie P.'s mind, it doesn't count if nobody knows about it!