Posted on 02/04/2004 9:36:33 AM PST by ninenot
Any more tantrums?
Implying that me defending my position and myself against your open hostility is a tantrum.
get your act together
As you might find out if you took the time to read what I've said then you would find that I actually have my act together. We just believe differently how to pursue things.
One has to have to have a mind in order to close it.
You have proven you have a mind. It's closed. But it's there. I have ragged you for this mistake. But, you must admit you left yourself open for that one.
You made my point.
If you bothered to read what I said, you'd realize that I didn't make your point. I had cleared that issue up prior to that. And you didn't bother to investigate, just slam.
you're smarter than them, more politically aware than them, superior in every way...
I never claimed to be "smarter" or "superior". I am much more keenly politically aware than the average voter or citizen. That's why I'm on this board. I would be willing to go as far as to say any active poster on this board qualifies for that statement. Being active and aware is why I decided to be a part of the Patriot Party. That's why I've put a lot of decisions out there, and gone rather far afield just to be aware of what's actually going on.
Fragmenting the conservative base across a bunch of third rate Third Parties will enable the Liberals for years to come, IMO. Maybe that's your goal.
I have repeatedly stated and will continue to state, and ask you why, if a concerted effort to gather the conservatives into a new party, instead of the Republican Party was put forth, how would that in any way assist the liberals? Aside from the fact that their fringe left element would see us putting together an effort and bolt to the Greenies, thus splintering their support.
You're all over the map and nowhere at the same time.
I haven't changed where I am at. Just because you move the map, and don't bother to read it, doesn't mean I've changed my opinions and beliefs.
In fact I don't think you identify with any party.
Well, I know for a fact that I post my party affiliation in my tag line. It says "Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us" and if you read it, you might see I've got one party I affiliate with and another, the Constitution Party that I feel has some close ties to the same core values we do, though there are some differences.
...and then you'll blame Bush for your mistake.
No. I'll just work even that much harder. I'm not going to give up on this. Please stop trying. It's rather boring to have to repeat myself when you are closemindedly just slaving yourself to the GOP.
Why don't you just vote Democrat and stop fooling yourself by hiding behind a Third Party label. You're certainly not fooling us.
I'm not going to vote Democrat. I'm not hiding behind a Third Party label. I certainly believe in it. I've decided not to drink the GOP Kool-Aid. I'm not trying to fool anyone, and if you can't see that, then you need to open your eyes. I'm out front and open about who I am.
I've taken your challenge and specifically listed those things you've said so far that are inaccurate and explained why they were. Now, I've listed twelve questions in a previous post. You haven't even tried to answer one. All you did was post up some smart-alec responses. Again. Never an actual answer. You just don't get it. I'm not trying to claim some superiority to you, but there are 12 issues I listed in short order, and if I took longer, I'd be more than able to put together quite a few more that are things that are WAY beyond the pale of things that the Republicans have done or not done including Bush, that are of major concern to me and have me saying I can no longer support that party. Some individuals, such as John Armor, certainly. But as a whole, no. You just blindly follow and insult. I've gone through a bunch of your posts. You try (and fail miserably) to be witty. Usually with some one liner. But, I must give you credit, you're consistant on bashing people who believe differently from you about how the conseravatives should go. So, I ask you to do the same. Go back and find anything I've said that's inaccurate. And don't just say that the concept of third parties is inaccurate. Also, you've got 12 questions waiting for you. If you can't answer them, then why should I continue to answer you?
And the right of consenting parties to do business with whomever they desire in legal goods without protectionist tariffs so high that they defacto deprive them of those rights?
No, you initiated it on this thread back in reply #145 when you called me a "Naderite Democrat anti corporation populist".
It's not surprising that you lack the personal integrity to admit to it.
And my skill at discussing things with you is adequate to the task.
No it's not.
As I predicted, you've engaged in nothing but an antagonistic and accusatory witch-hunt. Constantly questioning and berating my opinions, never expressing your own constructive views on the issues. All in all, you're just a mundane and beligerant troll.
Ciao. I've better things to do.
Here is where it started and you know it.
Leaving when this question is asked is predictable.
The uniform, flat-rate tariffs that I advocate be levied on all imported goods are intended to raise revenue for the Treasury and enable further reduction of other forms of federal taxation. For that purpose, it is counterproductive to raise them to prohibitive "protectionist" levels. When tariffs are raised to such excessive rates, trade is excessively hindered and Treasury revenue declines.
Also, you've got 12 questions waiting for you. If you can't answer them, then why should I continue to answer you?
Don't pull that kids stuff on me. Again, those topics, and many others have been addressed by me and others here on many occasions and on many threads. You lose.
I'm not a victim of anything, nor have I claimed such status. I am just giving you a shot of your own medicine, and you don't like it. Oh well.
Which doesn't mean you oppose it on the principles you earlier said you hold to.
And oppose usury laws. They're largely ineffective.
Again, you indicate you don't think they are effective but don't oppose them on the grounds that government has no business doing them. "They don't work" is different than you oppose them on philosophical grounds.
It's not off topic at all.
It is a FACT that Ayn Rand was an atheist.
And Randian laisezz-faire philosophy is nothing but economic Darwinism.
It lacks the moral and ethical checks and balances that were understood by our Founding Fathers.
Nonsense, that's your opinion. Unsupported by fact.
The attack was off topic, you seized on it and introduced an attempted connection which you perceived would be taken as negative by others. You whined when you were connected to people who share your beliefs. Goose, gander.
It looks as though he's willing to distort the remarks of ANYBODY who pays attention to him.
Just another mundane attack-monkey with no real thoughts of his own.
I agree, it IS rather patheticly sad.
Why should I defend him?
In the mean time, I'm not going to sit back and be attacked for believing that the Patriot Party will eventually have a chance. I will defend myself and my party and my beliefs vigorously.
And, yet, you intend to vote for the Constitution Party or Libertarian Party. Nice "defending" there. You're not doing too well in selling the Patriot Party or in winning supporters, IMO. You're starting to whine.
Here is the historical fact that supports my opinion:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
Karl Marx and Ayn Rand were both atheists.
Neither believed in the philosophy professed by our Founders.
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