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To: FlyLow
You're about to take the most precious thing in your life and turn it over to a government that, at some level, you know to be completely incompetent, for an education.

Complete BS. A vast majority of our citizens have public educations and we are the most productive and wealthy nation in history. Public education is not perfect but it is not as bad as the "Teacher Bashers" make it out to be. There is a very simple solution if you don't like public education. Send your children to a private school. Can't afford it? Whose fault is that? You made your choices. The people who bash education are people who complain about everything. It makes them feel better about themselves. They are usually very lonely people.

24 posted on 02/05/2004 11:44:23 AM PST by mrfixit514
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To: mrfixit514
Do you have kids?
Michigan, where I am right now, ranks 43rd in the United States in education. Our best private school here is a mediocre public school in other states. Michigan needs line workers so it educates line workers. I don't want my children to be line workers so I educate them at home.
26 posted on 02/05/2004 11:48:47 AM PST by netmilsmom (God sent Angels- Homeschooling 1/5/04-6 yr.old now 2nd Gr./3 yr old now K)
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To: mrfixit514
Send your children to a private school. Can't afford it? Whose fault is that?

Gee, I dunno... Maybe the fact that I would have to double pay for education is a factor? Don't know where you live, but I don't have a choice about paying my "rent" to the town. Every dollar that they extort from me in property taxes (which are 80% or more for school) is a dollar I can't spend on private school tuition.

42 posted on 02/05/2004 12:24:45 PM PST by whd23
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To: mrfixit514
the problem is that people become intelligent and productive DESPITE their public schooling not because of it.

They remember those few exceptional teachers who are there DESPITE the ridiculous administration and teacher unions that protect the mediocre.

Borrowing a .0001 cent paper is one thing. Mooching off of other parents is another.

Where does sharing end and communism begin?
87 posted on 02/05/2004 1:45:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: mrfixit514
"Complete BS. A vast majority of our citizens have public educations and we are the most productive and wealthy nation in history. Public education is not perfect but it is not as bad as the "Teacher Bashers" make it out to be. There is a very simple solution if you don't like public education. Send your children to a private school. Can't afford it? Whose fault is that? You made your choices. The people who bash education are people who complain about everything. It makes them feel better about themselves. They are usually very lonely people."

Are you nuts? Few males are allowed to teach anymore, the school system has been turned into a maternalistic/socialistic brain washing factory. It all fits with the old communist theories of taking over the pedagogy of the lumpen proletariat. While you don't hear those terms anymore that's what this is all about - and the smart ones in academia know exactly what they are doing. Go take the tests for seventh graders from the old school books and you will see how it has all been dumbed down. Lincoln was mostly self taught, I guess he was a lonely has-been.

93 posted on 02/05/2004 2:06:09 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: mrfixit514
That is quite a statement you make considering even parents who opt out of public school still get the same stipend taken out of their incomes as people using them.
If you really believed it was that simple, then I'm betting you are all for vouchers(at least to those actually paying taxes) to give people a break so that they may actually utilize CHOICE in education.
109 posted on 02/06/2004 6:37:11 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: mrfixit514
The people who bash education are people who complain about everything. It makes them feel better about themselves. They are usually very lonely people.

what a load of bulls**t that is. Are you bitter because you went to public school, arent educated enough for a well paying job and are now just a fix it man?

112 posted on 02/06/2004 6:57:38 AM PST by SwankyC
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