Painkillers for aborted babies?

WorldNetDaily ^ | February 7, 2004 | WorldNetDaily

[cupcakes]

Who knew a "mass of tissue" felt pain.

[cupcakes]

Wow, 10 ounces? I just had my ultrasound at 23+ weeks and my baby was measured at 1 lb 2 oz--bigger already than the baby you mentioned. Unbelievable what they can do now!

[SpookBrat]

Ping

I think I agree with you Meg and Nana.

[cpforlife.org]

How utterly sick and depraved is a culture that decides to use painkillers on babies about to be dismembered instead of protecting them from harm.

Abortion is a terribly brutal act of violence. There are several methods of aborting children waiting to be born. The methods used are based on the age and development of the child. Most abortions are basically dismemberment, ripping the child apart, limb from limb.

All surgical abortions take place after six weeks, and because a childs heart starts beating around the 25th day, every abortion kills a child with a beating heart. Children older than 11-12 weeks have all their organs working and the older they are past this stage of development, the more excruciatingly painful their deaths become.

Studies done over many years, mainly in England, now are so conclusive regarding fetal pain that there is a push in that country to anesthetize the child before dismembering and killing them in all second and third trimester cases. The late second-trimester fetus, like the similar-aged premature newborn, likely develops the capacity to be MORE sensitive to pain than a full-term baby, or even an adult.

Fetal Pain On-Line References:
http://www.mrc.ac.uk/index/publications/publications-research_reviews/publications-fetal_pain_summary_report.htm

http://www.all.org/issues/ab12.htm

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/fetalstudybritish.htm

http://opioids.com/endomorphins/foetpain.html

http://www.mccl.org/fp_news/fetal_pain.htm

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/Fetal_Pain/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,33437,00.html

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[T Minus Four]

Bump for fascinated watching.

[MarMema]

I believe as late as the 1970's infants were not administered anesthesia while undergoing major surgeries. It is a gruesome tale to read the horrific things they endured without any kind of pain relief or anesthesia. And I mean newly born infants.
The mortality rate was very high, and some in the medical field truly believed that these infants could also not feel pain.

[MarMema]

Link Here iscusses some of the history.

[MarMema]

of course I meant to type "discusses" above....sorry.

[Tribune7]

The law is a good idea.

[fatima]

Bump -kill the pain-kill the baby-unreal

[Victoria Delsoul]

"We must do everything possible to relieve the terror and suffering of children as they are aborted," said Black in a statement.

We're reaching the point where the truth though grossly shocking no longer affects people. The remorseless acceptance that abortion kills children through painless death is designed to desensitize society to the point where life and death are no longer relevant.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Baby Zoe's thread

I ASSUME things are still going alright for this precious child as her name is still listed on the front page of the hospital's web site.

Link to the hospital.

[hocndoc]

We tried to get a Prenatal Pain bill passed in Texas last year. The pro-abortionists claimed we were increasing the cost and endangering the mother's life because of the extra steps needed and that we would cause her emotional distress by mentioning that the child might feel pain.

(All this despite the fact that some late term abortionists kill the child with an injection before evacuation)

But, the main point that they made was that "pain" involves being able to remember and report on a sensation. By this measurement, no one could feel pain until they're about 3 years old.

In the UK, abortionists are required to use pain meds from 20 weeks, and some have suggested pulling that number back to 16 weeks.

The embryo reacts to noxious stimuli by (at least) reflexive and chemical changes by the age of 11 weeks. The nerves are there from 7 weeks LMP. By 21 weeks, the chemistry and hardwiring are the same as the full term child, but the function is not consistant until 26 weeks or so.

Some say that the neurobiology and chemistry mean that the child can't feel pain. Others believe that this means that the child may feel more pain, since he or she can't process it.

Our bill stalled in Committee. Then the Dem Representatives left town in the last week.

[hocndoc]

This is a point I made to the House State Affairs Committee: one of the markers of our species is that (as far as we know) we are the only species that teaches our children not to torture helpless animals.

[Squantos]

Damn'n doom on those who hurt a child.....

[MHGinTN]

The disconnect in their minds and souls is astonishing, Kevin. I can only guess that they first dehumanized the unborn to the extent that they can knowingly slaughter them, which serves to reinforce their below consciousness rationalization of the unborn not yet being their fellow human beings! Ghastly ... and the entire of the DNC is of the same cloth.

[cpforlife.org]

"The disconnect in their minds and souls is astonishing..."

A couple years ago I attended a presentation by Dr. Bernard Nathenson. He started by explaining his background and "credentials" to speak on the subject of abortion.

He explained that they gave numbers to the parts of the baby so that they could do their "work" with as much detachment as possible.

He said that the head is "Number One" and explained how with great professionalism the assistants would sometime ask: "have you got number one yet?"

He said that until his conversion he always looked at each abortion as a "job well done" and nothing else.

[Sloth]

Cool idea. THIS is the kind of incrementalism I can live with.

[TigersEye]

Next up...it may adversely affect the "mother".

I thought of that too. They won't want to bring that up though because the procedure itself is more dangerous to the "baby carrier" than giving the fetus pain killers would be.

[White Eagle]

I don't remember them not saying it was life, just that it was not a person. I may have missed that fine point, though.