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Selling Homosexuality to America
Regent University Law Review ^ | Spring 2002 | Paul E. Rondeau

Posted on 02/07/2004 2:26:21 PM PST by quidnunc

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To: little jeremiah
Man, I can't spell! Dyslexia of the fingers.

sophistry
jugglery
121 posted on 02/07/2004 9:23:15 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
That's the repeal of all AGE of consent laws.

I think I need some sleep!!
122 posted on 02/07/2004 9:24:41 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: quidnunc
Bump for later reading!
123 posted on 02/07/2004 9:26:41 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: lentulusgracchus; Libertina
More likely it's a queer setup. The "straight guy" probably isn't straight, just some homosexual actor. The homosexual community wants everyone to believe that a "straight" guy is always accepting and thankful for the "help." It's straight out of The Overhauling of Straight America:

"Where we talk is important. The visual media, film and television, are plainly the most powerful image-makers in Western civilization. The average American household watches over seven hours of TV daily. Those hours open up a gateway into the private world of straights, through which a Trojan horse might be passed. As far as desensitization is concerned, the medium is the message -- of normalcy. So far, gay Hollywood has provided our best covert weapon in the battle to desensitize the mainstream. Bit by bit over the past ten years, gay characters and gay themes have been introduced into TV programs and films (though often this has been done to achieve comedic and ridiculous effects). On the whole, the impact has been encouraging. The prime-time presentation of Consenting Adult on a major network in 1985 is but one high-water mark in favorable media exposure of gay issues. But this should be just the beginning of a major publicity blitz by gay America.

Straight viewers must be able to identify with gays as victims. Mr. and Mrs. Peterson must be given no extra excuses to say “they are not like us.” To this end, the persons featured in the public campaign should be decent and upright, appealing and admirable by straight standards, completely unexceptionable in appearance -- in a word, they should be indistinguishable from the straights we would like to reach. (To return to the terms we have used in previous articles, spokesmen for our cause must be R-type “straight gays” rather than Q-type “homosexuals on display.”) Only under such conditions will the message be read correctly: “These folks are victims of a fate that could have happened to me...”


124 posted on 02/07/2004 9:38:15 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform; lentulusgracchus
Thank you for the link. You know, the info is all out there, but Americans won't believe it... Very odd.
125 posted on 02/07/2004 9:46:41 PM PST by Libertina
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To: SerotoninBlocker
More on the Pedophilia Question

Pedophiles Argue their Case in the Journal of Homosexuality

126 posted on 02/07/2004 9:48:25 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform
Just read your links above.

Absolutely nauseating. I already know the truth of the matter, but I need to refresh my knowledge constantly. Anyone who claims that homosexuality and pedophilia have nothing to do with each other is a damn liar.
127 posted on 02/07/2004 9:59:59 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Just read your links above. Absolutely nauseating...


Indeed. Did you see the links in reply 117 above?

128 posted on 02/07/2004 10:04:50 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform
I can't right now, but will get to them later. I am grateful that you have the expertise to get these links up here. People need to inform themselves. The only reason the "gay" movement has made the inroads it has is because people in general do not inform themselves of the truth. They just accept, sheeplike, whatever the mass media spoonfeeds them. And what happens to sheep? If they're lucky, they only get sheared. Not so lucky, get slaughtered.

The light of truth shining on the dark corners is the best weapon.
129 posted on 02/07/2004 10:12:34 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: lentulusgracchus
SerotoninBlocker is no more.

The law of karma in action.

;-)
130 posted on 02/07/2004 10:21:35 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Maria S
Shoot, I reckon all of us fit into the DSM manual somewhere. The shrinks need a country of neurotic citizens to keep their wallets fat. They keep pushing these disorders and then the women's magazines get ahold of them.
131 posted on 02/07/2004 10:38:57 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Libertina
There's a new series on Showtime or HBO (I forget which) about lesbians. I think it's called The L Word. Sigh.
132 posted on 02/07/2004 10:43:49 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: little jeremiah
SerotoninBlocker is no more.

Oh gosh. Shucks. Durn. Wow, I'll not sleep tonight a WINK! :-)

133 posted on 02/07/2004 10:48:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (BG (Logan's Personal Mafia Hit Squad))
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To: Jorge
You've got to be kidding. Anyone who looks at the circumstances surrounding the the APA removing homosexuality from the DSM can see that it was politically calculated move made under pressure from the gay rights advocates, and had nothing to do with science.

That is so true. In fact, Simon LeVay, a homosexual himself, scientist and researcher has stated exactly that:

The A.P.A. decision was not made based on new scientific evidence--in fact, as gay-activist researcher Simon LeVay admitted, "Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality."

134 posted on 02/08/2004 1:17:28 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: breakem; little jeremiah
The more science studies homosexuality, the more we see the major factor determining homosexuality is environment. That's not a bold statement, it's what science continues to report. We should heed the words of John Adams when he said:
"Facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
As two of the three little pigs learned, we must build our house out of something solid. This was an important teaching of Jesus as well. He said it is foolish to build your house on sand, or to build your core position on something that is easily washed away. Instead, we should build our position on something solid, something which stands firm under scrutiny.

In regards to homosexuality and genetics, the work of homosexual activist Dr. Simon Levay has often been used to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic, and his work is still quoted to this day. But what did Levay really find? Here is what Levay said of his own work:

"[His 1991 research] made the unassuming LeVay one of the most misunderstood men in America. "It's important to stress what I didn't find," he points out with the courtly patience of someone who long ago got used to waiting for the rest of the world to catch up. "I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are 'born that way,' the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain --INAH3 is less likely to be the sole gay nucleus of the brain than part of a chain of nuclei engaged in men and women's sexual behavior. My work is just a hint in that direction--a spur, I hope, to future work."
Ten years later still nothing from LeVay or anybody else.

In 1973 the APA (American Psychiatric Association) declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. According to Levay, it wasn't science that propelled the APAs change, he said "Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality."

Dr. Robert L. Spitzer played a pivotal role in the above 1973 decision made by the APA. Spitzer used to believe homosexuals couldn't change but after studying the results of therapy he now believes homosexuals can change:

"I thought that homosexual behavior could be resisted--but that no one could really change their sexual orientation. I now believe that's untrue--some people can and do change."

Spitzer concluded with:

"the mental health professionals should stop moving in the direction of banning therapy that has, as a goal, a change in sexual orientation. Many patients, provided with informed consent about the possibility that they will be disappointed if the therapy does not succeed, can make a rational choice to work toward developing their heterosexual potential and minimizing their unwanted homosexual attractions."
This is amazing information! Homosexuals can change, they can leave their lifestyle! It's not just Spitzer and Levay making the above comments, although they are well known, it's being reported by many different organizations that thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.
135 posted on 02/08/2004 1:29:51 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: EdReform
More likely it's a queer setup. The "straight guy" probably isn't straight, just some homosexual actor.

I had dismissed that possibility, but you've shown by quotation and exposition that there is a very good reason to suspect that these rencounters may be, as you say, spurious and put-on affairs.

Have you sent a note to e.g. John Stossel or other non-PC investigative types about this possible programming scandal? If it is true that Queer Eye is faking their straights, and they certainly have the opportunity since creative and content control are almost certainly in their hands, that would be a major black eye for the producers and the network, and a piercing of the garment of false trustworthiness in which activist gays have sought to clothe themselves when performing before lying to the public.

136 posted on 02/08/2004 6:52:18 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: little jeremiah
Anyone who claims that homosexuality and pedophilia have nothing to do with each other is a damn liar typical liberal:

"He's soooo goooooood on the issues!!!"

Also, did anyone see the PBS Frontline on porn last week, which happened to mention prominently that federal pornography prosecutions came to a crashing halt when Sink Boy began soiling the White House?

He was sooooooo goooooooooooood on the issues! [Barf alert for scumbags and liars.]

137 posted on 02/08/2004 6:58:06 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: little jeremiah
The law of karma in action.

More like the law of JimRob!

I think all these seminar posters are probably the same two or three people who just keep coming back again and again, spewing the same few seminar points, and bouncing out the door in a phony huff about two steps ahead of the mods.

138 posted on 02/08/2004 7:09:05 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: EdReform
If it weren't for NARTH, would we ever find out about the crud these guys have been up to?

Thanks for the links.

139 posted on 02/08/2004 7:32:33 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
On FR, the law of karma = Jim Rob!

I will admit that I helped the matter along via the abuse button. After his/her/its first post, I smelled the stench of Gay Toll. He/she/it probably isn't a nurse, probably doesn't have a wife and kids, etc.
140 posted on 02/08/2004 7:50:55 AM PST by little jeremiah
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