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What if al Qaeda Had Been Hit Pre-emptively?
townhall.com ^ | 2/09/04 | Joel Mowbray

Posted on 02/09/2004 12:33:21 AM PST by kattracks

Imagine we had known in summer 2001 that al Qaeda was planning a strike on American soil that would claim the lives of thousands of innocents.  Imagine that our pleas for cooperation to the Taliban, the government harboring Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network, were rebuffed.

  Without certain knowledge, but knowing nonetheless that a massive attack was likely—and that the likely date was in September—would the president have been justified in launching a strike at the Taliban to prevent a possible al Qaeda attack? 

  What would the reaction among peaceniks have been had we taken out Mullah Omar and his merry band of thugs before al Qaeda had the chance to hijack four planes and murder 3,000 Americans?  Probably not that much different than they’re reacting to the war in Iraq.

  Think about it: had the Taliban and al Qaeda been eliminated in, say, August 2001, 9/11 would not have happened.  Not only would we have crippled the terrorist network operationally, but at least one of those leaders captured alive surely would have spilled the beans on the pending strike. 

  Before September 11, 2001, any attack on the Taliban would have been, by definition, pre-emptive—something that the left maintains, even after 9/11, is impermissible.  So even if we had known before 9/11 the depths of al Qaeda’s evil and the extent of its operational capability, the critics sniping at Bush’s decision to take out Saddam would not have favored any strike in Afghanistan until after 3,000 Americans had perished.

  With perfect hindsight, peaceniks would nitpick the analogy above.  Saddam was contained, they argue.  He had no weapons of mass destruction, they add.  Though they made these arguments before the war, there is no way they could have known that.  Peaceniks’ pre-war contentions, in fact, were nothing more than guesses wrapped in wishful thinking.

  All available intelligence before the Iraq war pointed to Saddam having a WMD arsenal, and history showed that he had a disturbing willingness to use WMDs.  And as his increasingly delusional novels made clear—including one he wrote literally as the world was readying for war—Saddam was drifting further and further from any connection to reality.

  Despite all this evidence, the president never labeled Saddam an “imminent” threat.  His argument, in fact, was that the world needed to act before the danger posed by Saddam became “imminent.”

  Yet every war critic—and, of course, the New York Times—has pretended as if “imminent” was the only word Bush actually used. 

  On this count, one particularly grievous example of journalistic malpractice at the Times deserves special attention.  In an article titled, “Leaders Sought a Threat. Spies Get the Blame,” the normally responsible Patrick Tyler summarized Bush’s case for war using the word “imminent” six times—exactly six times more than the president ever did. 

 Tyler even went so far as to claim that the Bush administration “redrafted intelligence”:

  “Political hands in both capitals redrafted the intelligence on Iraq's weapons programs - intelligence that had not appreciably changed in years - to make it appear that the threat was no longer merely evolving, but was imminent.”

 But just as the Times piece tries to do, the left is attempting to rewrite history.  The intelligence regarding Saddam may not have “appreciably changed in years,” but then again, neither had the words chosen to describe the threat.

  Saddam “will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”  That quote comes not from Bush or Rumsfeld, but from Clinton’s National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, back in 1998. 

  How about this one: Saddam presents a “particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation.”  Again, not from a Bushie, but from a man wanting to unseat Bush, Sen. John Kerry, in 2003 no less.

  If anything, former inspector David Kay’s recent comments that no WMDs will be found in Iraq vindicate Bush.  Kay directly refutes any assertion that Bush manipulated intelligence or ever asked anyone to lie or doctor reports. What Kay also found, though the media didn’t bother to cover it, was clear evidence that Saddam had duped UN weapons inspectors on the eve of war.

  If the peacenik left finds restraint so commendable and Bush’s pre-emption doctrine so offensive, here’s a good question: Where are the cheerleaders praising Clinton for showing “restraint” after Khobar Towers, the East African Embassy bombings, and the attack on the U.S.S. Cole when he refused to respond to the gathering threat posed by radical Islam?

©2003 Joel Mowbray

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; antiamericanwar; antiwarmovement; bushhaters; clintonlegacy; iraq; joelmowbray; osamabinladen; preemption; presidentbush; saddamhussein; saddamites; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 02/09/2004 12:33:22 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Good article.
2 posted on 02/09/2004 12:50:28 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: kattracks
BTTT! Good find!
3 posted on 02/09/2004 12:51:50 AM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: kattracks
The answer is that if President Bush had instituted a national security sweep domestically and an increased military/security presence overseas, in the first 8 months of his presidency no less, his critics would have warned of him being a war monger, stirring up a hornets' nest, and violating peoples' rights before they had committed any regrettable acts.

The armchair quarterbacks have completely given President Bill Clinton a pass over 9.11.2001 and gone on the offensive against President Bush.

Would the public have believed that such a coordinated plan could actually be carried out? The WTC had survived an Islamofascist bombing in the past. With all of "these" reports of suspected planes that would be hijacked to destroy the WTC, the Pentagon, and other targets, "how credible" is the threat against America?

The hindsight on this is being used by Bush haters to just rant. They would be saying virtually the same thing (with no catastrophic event to reveal to America the genuine threat that exists).

4 posted on 02/09/2004 1:03:05 AM PST by weegee
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To: MEG33
It is excellent.

Well crafted, exquisitely well-reasoned, and irrefutable.
5 posted on 02/09/2004 1:05:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kattracks
Oh, man, can't you just imagine what will happen if these out-of-touch peaceniks get their representative in the White House? All the work we have done to go after terrorists abroad will be for naught. I'll bet we will see an Iraq being run by the U. f---ing N. with a radical islamic cleric as head honcho and an apology coming from Kerry to Iraqis. He will apologize to Chirac, Schroeder, and Putin for the error of W's ways. Man, we will revert to our previous WEAK, PUSHOVER status in the world. I'll bet the Palis. and other killers will be dancing in the streets passing out candy!
6 posted on 02/09/2004 1:05:14 AM PST by whadizit
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To: kattracks
We all now know the "threat" posed by all "long haul" flights (if they are used as "missiles" soon after take off). How much would those involved in national security have revealed the details of Al Qaida/Bin Laden's plans for fear that others might try to crash a plane?
7 posted on 02/09/2004 1:08:08 AM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Yep. Right on! We already, in 1993, saw they attempted to take down at least one WTC tower. And Clinton, like Kerry would, treated it as a legal crime and not a statement of war.

So we further hampered our intelligence capabilities by forcing the government, in a trial, to give information as to how they tracked these men, found out their origins, and connected them to terrorist. Information that caused Al-Qaeda to change tactics and methods.

Just as the Clinton administration, along with NATO, agreed to "oversight" on their bombing runs over Kosovo (meaning the other side got a list of runs, targets, etc.) so they could pretend they were playing nice with the UN and the "world opinion". Where did that get us? Huh? Nowhere.

Now these same cowardly appeasers whine, like Tim Russert did Sunday with one question to Bush, that "the United States isn't liked in places like Germany and France"!

Liberal a-holes just don't get it do they? Who gives a flying F*** about the worthless French and Germans or what any of their unemployed, pompous morons think about us?

And Russia? RUSSIA? The left brings up RUSSIA? You mean the not-so-Soviet but not-to-evolved much since 1992 Russia you loved when Stalin was murdering and starving Ukranians by the millions?

It's a sad statement of a political party that would have totally backed Hitler if he just hadn't of been such a gay basher. We know the left don't give a hoot about his killing of the Jews.

8 posted on 02/09/2004 1:16:12 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: kattracks
What if al Qaeda Had Been Hit Pre-emptively?

The Democrats would have been livid!

9 posted on 02/09/2004 1:17:44 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Fledermaus
Well to tell the truth I was under whelmed with GW's case on MTP. It shows one of his political weaknesses that have been there since I first watched him campaign for governor. He has a complete lack of ability to toot his own horn. He acts embarrassed to give himself credit for anything. He just can't bring himself to forcefully defend his actions. I think it is a family trait and he had better get over it soon.
10 posted on 02/09/2004 1:21:47 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: kattracks
Well it would be just fine, and Clinton DID it. Poorly executed, to no benefit, but he did it.

So it follows that if Bush DID it, pre 9/11/01 for the SAME reasons (plus more) it certainly would be okay.
11 posted on 02/09/2004 1:25:22 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Texasforever
It might have hurt his dad because we weren't at war like we are now. But that family trait, I think, makes people comfortable.

He's not like a Kerry who toots his own horn so much he should do porn films!
12 posted on 02/09/2004 1:26:47 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Fledermaus
ROFL
13 posted on 02/09/2004 2:12:04 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: weegee
Perfect article. I agree with you completely, that the democratrs and their media would have done everything in their power to destroy Bush. even knowing that al Queda was going to attack us again.
14 posted on 02/09/2004 2:12:15 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: weegee
"Would the public have believed that such a coordinated plan could actually be carried out?"

You are right, it would have been a true case of good news is no news. Muslim terrorists are sitting in jail right now, having been convicted of plotting to blow up the Lincoln & Holland Tunnels in NYC (and some other stuff too, but I don't even know if they planned on blowing them ALL up, or if they just had a variety of targets in mind) and also the so-called "Millenium" bomb plotters (who were going to blow up LAX in 2000) are in jail (I think).

But these are things that never happened, and so they do not really sink in to the public mind, my own included. If Hitler had been stopped in Czechoslovakia I doubt his name would be always and forever used as a synonym for evil. This is an unavoidable problem with prevention rather than cure.
15 posted on 02/09/2004 2:49:40 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: kattracks
bttt
16 posted on 02/09/2004 3:16:32 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: kattracks
I cannot help but imagine some Democrats have hopes of a terror hit on American soil before the election. "Bush spent all this money on Homeland Security and he still couldn't stop the terrorist!" Far fetched? Outrageous to suggest this? It would be unthinkable that some Democrats would be hoping for this only if they had not been hoping for the economy to go bad, encouraging to go bad, and also hoping for the war in Iraq to go bad, speaking out and enheartening the Iraqi and foreign onsurgients. We really need a grassroots campaign against these people.
17 posted on 02/09/2004 3:37:24 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
I cannot help but imagine some Democrats have hopes of a terror hit on American soil before the election.
Beyond peradventure the Democratic Party relies on bad news for its very existence, and would be tempted to demagogue any--Heaven forefend--terrorist strike against us for partisan advantage.

But IMHO the effect of a second 9/11 on the standing of the president would be similar to that of the first one. The Democrats probably would try to exploit it--and it would do for the Democratic Party what the Depression did for the Republican Party.


18 posted on 02/09/2004 4:06:20 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: HankReardon
A long time poster on DU suggested more deaths of our soldiers in Iraq would be good if it led to Bush's defeat.

It was copied and posted on Andrew Sullivan and other sites before it was deleted.This one really sickened me and enraged me.
19 posted on 02/09/2004 4:09:07 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Ouch!Could be.
20 posted on 02/09/2004 4:14:03 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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