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Without South, Democrats will be doomed
The Clarion Ledger ^ | 02-07-04 | By David E. Johnson

Posted on 02/09/2004 3:47:53 AM PST by WKB

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:28:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Editorial; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: 2004; clark; dean; edwards; kerry; south; southernstrategy
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1 posted on 02/09/2004 3:47:53 AM PST by WKB
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To: onyx; katiebelle; Dawgsquat; MississippiDeltaDawg; bourbon; Black Agnes; Gurn; Exeter; Rivendell; ..
MS PING
2 posted on 02/09/2004 3:50:31 AM PST by WKB (3!~)
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To: WKB
"Arnold Schwarzenegger's victory in California demonstrated that with the right formula, Republicans are capable of recapturing the Golden State. "

IMHO, the "right formula", is a big tent, moderate, inclusive GOP.

Ouch!!!
3 posted on 02/09/2004 3:58:46 AM PST by tkathy (The nihilistic islamofascists and the nihilistic liberals are trying to destroy this country)
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To: WKB
The democrats have nothing but contempt for the south. They almost sneer when they talk about southern people and their values.
4 posted on 02/09/2004 4:00:20 AM PST by boop
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To: WKB
For months I've delighted in saying "the South will save the union from the democrats." Nice to see even the C/L agrees.

5 posted on 02/09/2004 4:02:20 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
I like your saying. : )
6 posted on 02/09/2004 4:19:27 AM PST by DeuceTraveler
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To: WKB
...''everybody always makes the mistake of looking South.''

Mistake? Post-Kennedy, IIRC the only Dems to have won the WH were from the South...LBJ, Carter, Bubba... Post-Kennedy, no candidate ''identified'' as from the NE has won the presidency...(GHWBush more closely identified w/ Texas.)

7 posted on 02/09/2004 4:28:50 AM PST by elli1
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To: elli1
"no candidate ''identified'' as from the NE has won the presidency..."

Nor should they,a liberal elitist has no idea about issues that are shared by the rest of the country,his arrogant statement dismissing the South disqualifies him to hold national elective office.
The values of the South are far more representative of the American way of life than a Massachusetts liberal.
8 posted on 02/09/2004 4:40:22 AM PST by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: elli1
Post-Kennedy, IIRC the only Dems to have won the WH were from the South

And Kennedy, for all his flaws, was a tax-cutting national security Democrat - something unthinkable for the Donkey Party nowadays.

9 posted on 02/09/2004 4:43:21 AM PST by dirtboy (We have come here not to insult Howard Dean, but to bury him...)
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To: dirtboy
Picture a world where the Republicans hold the majority of congressional seats, where the Republicans hold a filibuster proof senate, where the Supreme Court has at least a 6-3 advantage towards conservative judges, a world where the vast majority of governorships are held by Republicans.

Now, picture a world where our free speech is guaranteed, where welfare and poverty don't exist, where our right to bear arms is not brought into question, where we can freely explore our natural resources for energy, where our schools produce some of the finest minds based on eduation and not sociopolitical indoctrination, where drug traffickers and dealers are harshly dealt with, where our national security is guaranteed and other countries understand what freedom really means.

This can happen. All it takes is 60 Senate seats. That's how close we are to making American society whole again. To give us back what the RATS have stolen from us over the last 40 years.

It's our job to get the word out, because the ones who want to take this from us already have the infrastructure in place to destroy America and in my opinion they are doing a great job.

They have the unions, the universities, the media and the entertainment industry locked up. If you notice, they have all avenues of getting information out to the masses in their camp. The "Useful Idiots" have come home to roost and they are doing it in OUR country.

I'm tired of it. I am tired of being called a racist because I complain when my job is given to someone based on the color of their skin and not their abiliy. I am tired of worrying that my money will be taken in the name of financial equality. I am tired of dying for my right to free speech yet get censored when I have something to say. I am tired of being told that it is ok to abort a child and to kill someone who doesn't have the mental capacity, yet a convicted murderer on death row has more rights to live.

I am tired of the lies and deceit. When will someone stand up and say something about OUR rights? That is the person I will vote for on election day.

Sorry for the diatribe, but I am getting sick thinking about living in a socialist society.

10 posted on 02/09/2004 5:25:11 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 Senate seats changes the world!!)
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To: WKB
I doubt that most of the bubba's, myself included, can be swayed by B.S. Good luck MassKerry.
11 posted on 02/09/2004 5:27:09 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: WKB
That's why they will tap Edwards for Veep.
12 posted on 02/09/2004 5:33:55 AM PST by BunnySlippers (a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: WKB
The Electoral College Math means President Bush already starts out with 186 electoral votes... he could lose California, Ohio, New York, Pennslyvania, Illinois and Michigan and still win the election if he held onto Minnesota. That is if everything else from the 2000 election remained the same. He'd still have three votes to spare two more than last time. In contrast, in writing off the South, the Democrats have to win all of the big states and states trending Republican like Kentucky, Minnesota, and West Virginia. The other party has its work cut out for them this year in building a path to the 270 votes needed to win the White House and with a Yankee liberal as their putative nominee good luck to them in carrying the South in November.
13 posted on 02/09/2004 5:40:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Great diatribe, Andy.

"All it takes is 60 Senate seats."

All right, all you Southerners! Get out there and do your duty!

14 posted on 02/09/2004 5:51:48 AM PST by Savage Beast (Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George W. Bush--that's for sure! ~Happy2BMe)
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To: elli1; boop; Redcoat LI
It goes a bit further. . .

In the last forty years, every president has been from the South or the West. The North has ALWAYS lost, especially a northern liberal.

1964 Texas wins
1968 California wins, northern lib loses
1972 California wins, northern lib loses
1976 Georgia wins, Michigan loses
1980 California wins, Georgia loses (West v. South, clincher is that Carter was percieved as a wimp)
1984 California wins, northern lib loses
1988 sorta Texas/sorta NE wins, northern lib loses (sorta South beats out northern lib)
1992 South v. South v. sorta South/sorta NE - real South wins
1996 Arkansas wins, Kansas loses
2000 South v. South

If Kerry or Dean is nominated, you have:
South v. northern lib. South wins.

Also, Senators don't win, but governors & veeps have a good shot.
15 posted on 02/09/2004 5:54:32 AM PST by fqued (GW - Go West, young man)
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To: Savage Beast
There was a time shortly after WWII when the Republicans held only 85 seats in the house. The Democrats went on to control congress for the next forty years.

If things work out well in Iraq and Osama turns up in chains or particles we might see a reverse of history???
16 posted on 02/09/2004 6:00:13 AM PST by Ramcat
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To: fqued
No Southerner worth his pride is gonna vote for a Yankee from Massachusetts --- there's no Lyndon B Johnson to inspire partisan loyalty (and regional pride) that existed in the heyday of another U.S Senator from the Bay State - John F Kennedy.
17 posted on 02/09/2004 6:01:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BunnySlippers; goldstategop
That's why they will tap Edwards for Veep.

That'd be a losing strategy IMO. Bush's victory margins in the south were generally too big to make up in one election cycle. If I were the Dem nominee, Dick Gephardt would be my running mate. That'd give 'em a shot at Missouri (Bush only beat Gore/Nader by 1.7% in MO). It'd help in Ohio (Bush only beat Gore/Nader by 1.0% in OH). Then I'd target FL, NH, WV, AZ, CO and NV, which are the other non-Southern states where Bush beat Gore/Nader by less than 5%. There's no need for the Dems to look South in 2004 for the top of the ticket. Of course, it's a different story for the Senate races in play.

18 posted on 02/09/2004 6:04:35 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: Ramcat
Nothing would be better for the United States--or for the world.

My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were all Democrats. My children are all Republicans.

19 posted on 02/09/2004 6:14:20 AM PST by Savage Beast (Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George W. Bush--that's for sure! ~Happy2BMe)
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