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To: Delphinium; B4Ranch
"Someone on FR has been arguing with me about the subject of wolves, using Ted Turners organization as her reliable source...."

We need to get organized here and publish a list of the trolls in our midst, so that we can freeze them out of the debate. This can be done by freep-mailing to those on our enviro/Property rights lists so that all know who they are, and refrain from giving them a foot in the door.

107 posted on 02/16/2004 4:32:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: farmfriend; everyone
UPDATE FROM THE WILDERNESS...............

Here's the latest from the Forest Service on the matter....

http://www2.srs.fs.fed.us/r3/gila/news/newsdetails.asp?newsid=75

What they DON'T tell you there, is that after they had to send a memo out to their employees stating that anyone caught taking Diamond Bar cattle would be subject to fine, imprisonment or both, none of their fine employees wanted to stick their necks out to do the gather.

Also, the closure they speak of, never happened to begin with.

They also don't say that the 2 contractors they had to do the gather, backed out when they found out about the fine, imprisonment or both....and they aren't going to be able to get anyone from close by to do it. We hear that they have 2 applicants from Utah and 1 from Canada, but have no idea if it's the truth, or the truth according to the Forest Service.

There are a few things in the works right now, that I'm not at liberty to share at this time, but hopefully, the next time I make it to town, there will be more update to give ya'll.

Thanks for your well-wishes!
108 posted on 02/17/2004 4:22:39 PM PST by Ranchwife ("You Just Can't See Him From The Road" Chris LeDoux)
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To: editor-surveyor; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; Issaquahking; forester; marsh2
Don't "freeze them out of the debate!" Pursuade them to see things differently! The definition of "rhetoric," is pursuasive speech!!!

Many of these folks are "almost pursuaded"(old hymn title) already. That's why they come on here arguing, because they aren't too sure they're correct in the first place. It's kinda like bowling... Set 'em up... Then bowl 'em over!!!

Conservatives never "win" anything by "shunning!" That's bad stategery!!! Socrates did it best by asking rhetorical questions in series, until a person "bought in," thinking the correct answer was their idea... all along!!! It works everytime it's tried...

123 posted on 02/20/2004 12:31:10 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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