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U.S. Democrat expats in anti-Bush surge
UPI ^ | 02/10/04 | Peter Almond

Posted on 02/10/2004 1:27:52 PM PST by Pokey78

LONDON, Feb. 10 (UPI) -- Janet Sproul, originally from Seattle but now in London, voted for President George W. Bush in 2000. But that was then. Monday night, amid hundreds of cheering expatriate U.S. Democrats at an overcrowded room in the Bloomsbury Holiday Inn, she cast her vote for Democratic frontrunner Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts.

"I thought Bush was the right choice four years ago, but I've gotten to loathe the guy," said Sproul. "I really don't like his stand on the Middle East and especially going to war with Iraq. Kerry looks like the guy to beat him."

In unprecedented numbers, it seems, American Democrats abroad are coming out to make their feelings known back home, united by a determination to defeat Bush in November. They don't get much of a say in what the Democratic National Committee decides -- nine delegates with full voting privileges and seats compared to the 154 delegates from Michigan alone -- but they are treated the same as any other state delegation, and with a potential 7 million Americans living abroad, their voice does carry some weight.

What is particularly stirring the expatriate American Democrats this election year, however, is that in being regularly exposed to the attitudes of their host nations many find themselves embarrassed by their president to a level they haven't felt before.

"Its not so much anti-Americanism I sense here as it is Bush being an alienating factor (in foreign attitudes)," said Bailey Kasten, 20, of Wilton, Iowa, a student from the American University in Washington who is now at the college's London campus and who supports former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean.

"There are a lot of angry people here tonight," said Rachelle Valladeres, international chairwoman of the Democratic Party Abroad, who had to change the venue of the London caucus to accommodate at least twice the number originally expected. "It's the same everywhere. We haven't had such a surge in interest in the organization's 40-year history."

Some 156 Democrats showed up Sunday at a meeting room at the Foreign Correspondents Club in Tokyo -- almost twice the number expected and four times more than in 1996 and 2000. Six hundred attended a caucus in Paris where no more than 300 had been expected.

London, with probably the world's largest concentration of expatriate Americans, traditionally has the largest number of active Democrats and Republicans.

To the crowd of more than 600 Democrats who were spilling over two large rooms at the London caucus, Valladeres said: "Democrats are really, really energized. This organization has more than doubled in size in the last 12 months.

"We've got branches in parts of the world we've never had before. Austria (as a branch) didn't exist four weeks ago. We've got 68 people in Armenia -- I didn't know we even had any Americans in Armenia! South Africa, Malawi, Kenya and the Cameroon have started up in just the last two months. We've had caucuses in Bosnia, Korea, Colombia."

Excited by their first taste of election-year voting, the crowd somewhat chaotically handed in paper slips to produce a first straw poll. They then divided into candidate caucuses to pick the frontrunners. There were too many people to see the five-minute video appeals from each of the candidates, so statements or letters were read out instead.

Among those present was Lou D'Allesandro, state senator from New Hampshire, who was North Carolina Sen. John Edwards' campaign manager in that state.

"The Democratic campaign is beginning to resonate," he said. "Bush has done more to destroy the goodwill the world has for America than any president in history, and I think this is beginning to sink in domestically."

Kerry's pitch to the crowd was delivered by his cousin, Laura Winthrop, a student at Oxford, who read not a statement from the Massachusetts senator but a letter on his behalf signed by 30 U.S. ambassadors around the world declaring it was urgent for Americans to restore the nation's international credibility.

But it was domestic, not foreign, policy that stirred Dean supporter David Merrill to come out to vote for the first time since 1992.

"If Bush gets re-elected, I fear he will have so changed the basic social structures of America there won't be any way back (for such things as social security)," said the 50-year-old Oxford tutor, originally from Boston. "Dean is very supportive of rescinding Bush's tax cuts and he seems to have energized the campaign."

The straw poll showed that of 552 acceptable ballots, Kerry came first with 299 votes, Dean with 105, Edwards with 60, Wesley Clark with 55, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, with 26 and non-campaigning Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., with three.

By the end of the evening, Kerry had enough votes to send 17 delegates to the final Democrats Abroad worldwide caucus in Edinburgh, Scotland, in late March. Dean had seven delegates and Edwards six. The Edinburgh caucus will sort out nine delegates from 37 countries to send to the Democratic National Convention in Boston in July.

The straw poll results from caucuses reporting from 12 countries over the weekend showed that Kerry was the clear favorite in all but three countries. Japan went 52 votes to 43 for Dean; Sweden and Switzerland were balanced between Dean and Kerry; France, like Britain, went heavily for Kerry, 310 to Dean's 87.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2004; 2004election; absenteevote; antiamericanism; bushhaters; byhookorbycrook; democrats; election2004; expats; overseasballots; ratvoters; usefulidiots
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1 posted on 02/10/2004 1:27:54 PM PST by Pokey78
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Bunch of silly SOB's
3 posted on 02/10/2004 1:30:18 PM PST by Rome2000 (JIHADISTS FOR KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Pokey78
"Janet Sproul, originally from Seattle but now in London, voted for President George W. Bush in 2000."

Yeah. Right.
4 posted on 02/10/2004 1:31:20 PM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: Pokey78
"a letter on his behalf signed by 30 U.S. ambassadors around the world declaring it was urgent for Americans to restore the nation's international credibility."

These people need to be fired and replaced ASAP.
5 posted on 02/10/2004 1:33:16 PM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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Expatriats for Kerry? I guess the Dems are having trouble scaring up dead people to vote for them.
6 posted on 02/10/2004 1:38:31 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Pokey78
Janet Sproul, originally from Seattle but now in London, voted for President George W. Bush in 2000.

Yeah, sure she did. So did Tipper Gore ...

7 posted on 02/10/2004 1:39:00 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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I thought that the Democrats hated overseas ballots and thought that they shouldn't be counted in the Florida tally since those people "don't really live there anyway".
8 posted on 02/10/2004 1:42:33 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Rome2000
...50-year-old Oxford tutor, originally from Boston. ...

Laura Winthrop, a student at Oxford, who read not a statement from the Massachusetts senator ...

was Lou D'Allesandro, state senator from New Hampshire, who was North Carolina Sen. John Edwards' campaign manager in that state....

Rats abroad Hahahaha...These fools will be outvoted by the conservative military members who vote absentee, by many times over. LOL!

9 posted on 02/10/2004 1:43:30 PM PST by demlosers (SUVs=Haliburton=Bush=Religion=Flag=VRWC=Repubs =WMDs= Oil=Black Helicopters=We're all going to die!!)
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American Democrats abroad are coming out to make their feelings known back home

So? Benedict Arnold was a favorite overseas at one time as well.

10 posted on 02/10/2004 1:46:58 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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Well we can probably count on an expat like Johnny Depp to vote from France but Madonna never voted in 1992 when she was all over MTV's Rock The Vote campaign to sign up young voters for Bill Clinton. Madonna has been trying to influence a "conservative" candidate in England though because she wants to keep people from wandering through "her" property"; I guess that she donates money in her husband's name.
11 posted on 02/10/2004 1:47:46 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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Kerry's pitch to the crowd was delivered by his cousin, Laura Winthrop, a student at Oxford, who read not a statement from the Massachusetts senator but a letter on his behalf signed by 30 U.S. ambassadors around the world declaring it was urgent for Americans to restore the nation's international credibility.

Clinton appointees no doubt. By hook or by crook the media will make every effort to defeat George W. Bush's re-election.

12 posted on 02/10/2004 1:52:02 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: weegee
Al Qaeda Democrats abroad are certainly anti-Bush.
13 posted on 02/10/2004 1:52:30 PM PST by Patrick1
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14 posted on 02/10/2004 1:52:49 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: Pokey78
Of course, none of these RATs care about what Hollywood, and the 'Gay' agenda has done to offend peoples in the Middle East.
15 posted on 02/10/2004 1:52:57 PM PST by 11th_VA (Endure the suffering - Christ is King !)
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Hate to burst their bubble, the expatriate Republican Military voters outnumber them about 100-1!
16 posted on 02/10/2004 1:56:17 PM PST by GatorGirl
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"a letter on his behalf signed by 30 U.S. ambassadors around the world declaring it was urgent for Americans to restore the nation's international credibility."

Former Ambassadors probably appointed by Clinton. There is a little thing called the Hatch Act, which prohibits such political activity by Federal employees

17 posted on 02/10/2004 2:00:58 PM PST by kabar
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I hate to break it to these morons but we were really that loved by the rest of the world when Clinton was President.
18 posted on 02/10/2004 2:04:12 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Pokey78
I'm afraid folks, this is the last stand for America! WE MUST FIGHT for HER! We must fight for the sake of our children! If we don't will our country become The UNITED STATES OF SOCIALISM....USS??! We are in perilous times, and the RATS are taking this country down the slope in an ALARMING rate! Scary stuff!
19 posted on 02/10/2004 2:08:04 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I hate to break it to these morons but we were really that loved by the rest of the world when Clinton was President.

I meant we weren't that loved. Spent most of the 90's in Saudi Arabia. We still had some respect in the early 1990's, much due to our success in Desert Storm but it was gone after a few years thanks to two people named Clinton. Notice they mostly use French expats as examples.

20 posted on 02/10/2004 2:14:35 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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