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Kerry's Vietnam service now fair game
www.NewsAndOpinion.com | Jack Kelly

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:45:25 AM PST by nelsonted1

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1 posted on 02/11/2004 9:45:27 AM PST by nelsonted1
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To: nelsonted1

What is not honorable is the way Kerry — in testimony before Congress in April, 1971 — falsely accused his fellow Viet vets of routinely committing grisly war crimes.

If he knew of these "war crimes" and didn't report them, isn't that dereliction of duty?  Shouldn't he be court-martialed for that?  Or is he just making stuff up again...

BTW- you need a link to the source.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

2 posted on 02/11/2004 9:49:56 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (“Before going out drinking, always tape a handcuff key to the inside of your watch band.”)
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To: nelsonted1
The evidence he had of the heroism of Lt (jg) John F. Kerry came chiefly from the after action report of Lt. (jg) John F. Kerry.

Why am I not suprised.

If there is skepticism about W's NG record why is this out-of-bounds?

3 posted on 02/11/2004 9:50:19 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: nelsonted1
In the senate, Kerry has a reputation for trying to have things both ways. Kerry exhibited this tendency early on at an antiwar protest in which he flung medals over a fence at the White House — but the medals weren't his own. Kerry says now that he is proud of his Vietnam service. But he said then that he was ashamed of it.

Seems like Kerry and Gore must have gone to the same matchbook correspondence course on "politics 101 - how to reverse yourself more than once"

4 posted on 02/11/2004 9:53:25 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Semper Paratus
That's what caught my eye, too. It sounds as though he manufactured his own Silver Star. Not flattering.
5 posted on 02/11/2004 9:54:55 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (BUSH IN '04: Because we want to outlive Osama Bin Laden.)
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To: centurion316
more good intel
6 posted on 02/11/2004 9:57:29 AM PST by centurion316
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To: nelsonted1
What happened to the story of him being decorated for turning his boat around, under fire, to pick up some guy who had fallen overboard?
7 posted on 02/11/2004 9:59:51 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: nelsonted1
So, he got the Silver Star by writing his own after action report....okay!
8 posted on 02/11/2004 10:01:42 AM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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What happened to the story of him being decorated for turning his boat around, under fire, to pick up some guy who had fallen overboard?

I've never heard that one. Maybe it's "urban legand" ala Kennedy's PT109 manufactured story.

9 posted on 02/11/2004 10:03:15 AM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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I can envision grizzled NGs saying...'you mean they're shooting at us?'...or, 'want me to stop at the grocery store on the way home from drill, honey?'
10 posted on 02/11/2004 10:04:09 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: LisaMalia
Well isn't that the guy they had reunite with Kerry recently? The guy he supposedly "saved"?
11 posted on 02/11/2004 10:05:53 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: Owl_Eagle
Actually, he attempted to have all of the military court-martialed on his word only.
12 posted on 02/11/2004 10:07:00 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: mike1sg
here's another one for you.
13 posted on 02/11/2004 10:07:37 AM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: AgThorn
Seems like Kerry and Gore must have gone to the same matchbook correspondence course on "politics 101 - how to reverse yourself more than once"

JFK dated JFK's wife's half-sister. JFK read PT109 and felt he needed that type of resume to bolster his career (just like JFK). JFK is following the JFK mold in his long standing desire to be the president.

BTW, is NOT Irish-catholic.

14 posted on 02/11/2004 10:08:59 AM PST by cinFLA
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Apparently that noted liberal historian Brinkley, of New Orleans, put it in his book about the "HERO".

I heard the "saved" one claim that he was in Southern California, happened to be in a book store, happened to see the book by Brinkley and turned to the page that told his story and made contact with the JFKERRY campaign.

Brinkley's book is the only place where I have heard about this event.
15 posted on 02/11/2004 10:10:03 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: nelsonted1
"But I am unaware of any soldier or Marine who was awarded a decoration of any kind — much less the Silver Star — just for killing a wounded man who was running away."

Bump!

16 posted on 02/11/2004 10:10:47 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: grobdriver
you're right--kerry staged a big reunion with the guy in front of news cameras. maybe his bronze star was for that.
but why did kerry and the guy he save avoid each other all those years? i wonder if there is more to that story. i wonder who wrote that report.
17 posted on 02/11/2004 10:11:49 AM PST by drhogan
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To: stuartcr
I can envision grizzled NGs saying...'you mean they're shooting at us?'...or, 'want me to stop at the grocery store on the way home from drill, honey?'

Perhaps you might ask these units' personnel?

Air National Guard
Pueblo Crisis and Vietnam War Mobilizations
1968-1969
Unit Designation Date Mobilized Location Demobilization Date
104 TFS (MD) 7 Apr 68 U.S. 20 Dec 68
119 TFS (NJ) 26 Jan 68 U.S. 17 Jun 69
120 TFS (CO) 26 Jan 68 Phan Rang AB, South Vietnam 30 Apr 69
121 TFS (DC) 26 Jan 68 U.S. 18 Jun 69
123 TRW (KY) 26 Jan 68 U.S. 9 Jun 69
136 TFS (NY) 26 Jan 68 Tuy Hoa AB, South Vietnam 11 Jun 69
138 TFS (NY) 13 May 68 U.S. 20 Dec 68
147 AAS (PA) 13 May 68 U.S. 12 Dec 68
154 TRS (AR) 26 Jan 68 U.S. 20 Dec 68
165 TFS (KY) 26 Jan 68 U.S. 9 Jun 69
166 TFS (OH) 26 Jan 68 Kusan AB, Korea 18 Jun 69
171 AAG (PA) 13 May 68 U.S. 12 Dec 68
174 TFS (IA) 26 Jan 68 Phu Cat AB, South Vietnam 28 May 68
174 TFG (NY) 13 May 68 U.S. 20 Dec 68
175 TFG (MD) 13 May 68 U.S. 20 Dec 68
184 TFG (KS) 26 Jan 68 Kusan AB, Korea 18 Jun 69
188 TFS (NM) 26 Jan 68 Tuy Hoa AB, South Vietnam 4 Jun 69
192 TRS (NV) 26 Jan 68 U.S. 7 Jun 69
* SOURCES: ANG UNIT DATA CARDS, NGB-PAH, NATIONAL GUARDBUREAU, HISTORICAL SERVICES DIVISION, AIR NATIONALGUARD ARCHIVES.

18 posted on 02/11/2004 10:12:26 AM PST by Gunner Mike (Ready on the right? Ready on the left? All ready on the firing line.)
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To: nelsonted1
INTREP - VNVAJK
19 posted on 02/11/2004 10:14:35 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Gunner Mike
Why?
20 posted on 02/11/2004 10:30:07 AM PST by stuartcr
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